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11:11 Will Enoch and Elijah return as the two witnesses/in rev. 11:11 (that's right 11:11)

2008-07-30T15:27:49Z

see also the Jerusalem Countdown tribe
and the Prophesy of Magog tribe (see my profile for linc)

ENOCH SEES FALLEN ANGELS(BIBLE)

could the fallen angels in the books of genesis and Jude
be proven by enoch to be the false prophets of the end-times
In order for an antichrst to gain control of the entire world
he will need to shock and awe the world
the world has slowly been exposed to the idea of aliens
Are the false prophets,or wandering stars in the book fo jude fallen angels
reserved in the viod of darkness until that day
Many people who claim to have been abduted claim to have been given a alien gospell
and that they have been forced to watch films that prove that aleins are our true creators
Are aliens, fallen angels gone on to populate other diminsions
what happened to the Nephilim
Did they travel on only to retun again one day
or did they die in the flood
Enoch saw them in genesis..........and the book of Jude also brings us this warning from enoch

Ge 5:21 ¶ And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 ¶ And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech:
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
28 ¶ And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.
30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:
31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.
32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
(KJV)
Ge 6:1 ¶ And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 ¶ And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 ¶ There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 ¶ And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
8 ¶ But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
11 ¶ The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
13 ¶ And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
16 A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.
17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.
19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
21 And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.
22 ¶ Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 ¶ Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 ¶ To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

WILL ENOCH AND ELIJA RETURN IN THE LAST DAYS AS THE TWO WITNESSES OF REV.
TO PROPHISY AGAINST THESE FALSE PROPHETS(ALEINS)and THE JEZEBEL(Rev,)(THE GREAT WHORE OF MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT )

Two men are claimed to have NOT DIED and to have been taken UP TO HEAVEN IN A WHIRL-WIND.ELIJAH and ENOCH

ELIJAH

2Ki 2:11........... And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Mal 4:5 ..............Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

2Ki 9:36............. Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, This is the word of the LORD, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel:

( AMERICA)(MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT)(THE GREAT WHORE)(JEZEBEL)
Re 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28 And I will give him the morning sta1 ¶ And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7 ¶ And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14 ¶ These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. ( AMERICA? )
(KJV)

ENOCH

23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
(JUST FOR A SIDE NOTE ENOCH'S SON MATHEUSELAH WAS OLDEST MAN TO LIVE IN THE BIBLE)

THE TWO WITNESSES
(ENOCH and ELIJAH) (11:11) that's right 11;11

this is the one part of the bible that never mad since until now
How could the whole world see two prophet die and be dragged through the street of Jerusalem
only to be risen back to life and accended into the heaven's
HOW COULD THE WHOLE WORLD SEE IT?Live
well now with satellite T.V. and the internet

Re 11:3 ¶ And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

see also New tribes the jerusalem countdown
also...... the prophesy of Magog

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the answer is yes

2007-06-13T09:43:32Z

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The Elohim Covenant of Light

2007-06-10T23:41:01Z

Elohim Covenant of Light
Elohim

Elohim are the powerful beings who head up the Builders of Creation branch of cosmic hierarchy. Elohim is one of the Hebrew names of God. It is a uni-plural noun referring to the twin flames of the Godhead that comprise the “Divine Us.” When speaking specifically of either the masculine or feminine half, the plural form is retained because both halves contain the divine whole. Elohim preside over the creation of star systems, planets and all physical life evolving anywhere in the universe. They carry the greatest concentration and highest vibration of light that we can comprehend.

Come join in the healing of all this night May 19th 12am pst.
*note * Due to the high vibration of this healing it is best to have had some Raiki or other attunement.

We of the Elohim will be conducting other healing vibration work over the next two months leading up to 7-7-7 and at the break of the day light of this day we will be at the highest peak to bring forth the godhead energy for all.

Call for the Chalice of Elohim

Elohim of God!
Elohim of God!
Elohim of God!

Descend now into every nation on earth to raise up souls of light!

Descend through the chalice of Elohim anchored over the Heart of the Inner Retreat! We call for the reinforcement of that chalice.

Seven Mighty Elohim, empower us that we might be thy chalice in the earth! Empower us for personal and world transformation! Empower us that we might show others how to achieve the one-on-one relationship with God that is their divine birthright!

the seven rays of the Elohim

Hercules and Amazonia, first ray
Apollo and Lumina, second ray
Heros and Amora, third ray
Purity and Astrea, fourth ray
Cyclopea and Virginia, fifth ray
Peace and Aloha, sixth ray
Arcturus and Victoria, seventh ray

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AS one who is of the Elohim...it is hard to walk alone

2007-06-10T23:33:48Z

Exodus opens up and tells Remi : Yes I have been lonely all my life...I feel as if I have missed that person that is a soul mate...by a fue years....back when I was nine or six ...I came in to my conscious self...as a being that has memorys reaching back over hundreds of years....and over this span there has been one that I have walked with...this other being berings balance to me ......my contract with the universe is to bring about enlightenment and to usher in change...and like most angels that come back to this plane...we/I seek that feeling of love between two persons....over time I have rememberd that the universe has a wicked scents of humor ..if you are not very exact in what you ask for ..thin it will provide a lose form of what you asked for...so the 1st lesion in life is to know what you want deeply down to the last detail
Our contracts can allways be updated and reviesd...as we grow ......but for me finding that person has eluded me....and there have been times were I have just given in to being alone this time around...so I put away my hart ..locked it up behind a wall...so that I could do what I am here to do......and told the universe that when I get back there will be hell to pay for this.....does this answer your question

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The Ancient Nephilim- Sons of the Watchers Part III

2007-02-26T18:14:09Z

The Ancient Nephilim - Sons of the Watchers
by Mary Alice Bennett

Posted: 00.19 February 3, 2007

Part III

The Sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.
The memory of the Giants has been passed down in legend by humankind through the ages from Homer`s Odyssey and the conflict between Odysseus and the one-eyed giant Polyphemus on the island of Sicily, to Jack the Giant Killer and his beanstalk. The Norse Prose Edda relates the journey of Thor and Loki to the Land of the Giants. Mischievous Loki was himself the son of a giant and partook of their personality traits.

The Giants were the offspring of the Sons of Heaven who descended to earth to take human brides (Gen. 6:4). The apostle Paul advised the women of the congregation to cover their hair because of these angels. The Sons of Heaven were the Watchers who did not keep their first estate. The Book of Enoch tells of their progeny, the Grigori, the giant ones who devastated the earth revealing the secrets of metallurgy, mining, magical charms and astrology to its inhabitants. They taught the art of make-up and weaponry as well. Enoch's writings tell the history of these fallen angels and their huge and bloodthirsty children. Enoch gives a warning to all humanity of the judgment in the devastating flood to come.

In the generation of Jared, the father of Enoch, the Watchers descended. Some ancient books say that they landed on Mt. Hermon. Their leader's name was "Shemihazah", a name familiar to students of the Billy Meier Swiss UFO case. Billy's female ET contact calls herself "Semjase" and tells Billy about her ancestors in space. "Semjaza" is the alternative spelling of the name of the leader of the fallen angels in the ancient Book of Enoch. The 2 giant sons of Shemihazah received dreams that they ask Enoch to interpret.

Fragments of "The Book of Enoch" and "The Book of the Giants" were found among the Dead Sea Scrolls (Oxford University) in the caves of Qumran. These books are a combination of primordial history and apocalypticism. The Book of the Giants is more elaborate than Enoch with its dialogue, martial encounters, symbolic dreams, journeys to distant regions, and emotion-laden soliloquies. The Manichaean version of Enoch contains characters from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Pages of this Persian version were found during excavations of Turfan, China in the Buddhist caves there. The works of Dante and Milton were both inspired by Enoch, as were the tales of Prometheus.

The descendants of the giants inhabited the land of Canaan at the time of Moses. The Israelites sent to scout out the land of milk and honey feared them, saying that they felt like grasshoppers in their sight. Moses described the original inhabitants of Moab as "Anakim" (Deut. 2:10) that is belonging to the race known as Rephaim - giants. The word "Rephaim" means "shades or fearsome giants". The spirits of the giant Rephaim who drowned in the Flood of Noah were considered to be the origin of the demons or shades in the netherworld. The Moabites referred to them as Emim - terrifying beings. They were called Zuzim or Zanzummin, as mentioned in Kabbalistic writings.

The giant Goliath was a descendant of the Rephaim as was Og of Bashan whose 13-foot long, 6-foot wide iron bed (Deut. 3:11) remained in Rabbah of the Ammonites.

Gigantic bones are frequently classified as "Neanderthal. "Neanderthal" bones have been found in the caves of Mt. Carmel in Israel. Ancient ruins known as "Cyclopean" as well as megalithic structures built below and above ground are often described as being the built by giants. The Roman poet Ovid referenced "The Gigantomachia" - "The War of the Giants" at the beginning of his "Metamorphosis". In the Nordic creation myth, the giant Bergelmir escapes from the flood that overwhelmed the world in his boat. It seems that some of the giants did survive into historical times.

Miners in 19th century Ireland discovered the fossilized perfectly preserved body of an enormous giant on a huge coffin under layers of gravel in an iron mine. It was photographed and put on display. This was a true giant of the 20-foot variety who had 6 toes. Some of the skulls of giants hold double rows of teeth. In Patagonian cave engravings of footprints with bird tracks of the Rhea, some of the human feet have 6 toes.

The bones of men of great stature have also been found in slate mines preserved in solid rock. One long leg bone was encased within red quartz. Ancient tools have also been preserved this way. These artifacts and bones are Antediluvian, meaning that they date from before the Flood.

Here is a quotation from the writings of Ellen Lloyd, which she found while doing research on the Watchers. It comes from a Gaelic chant originating on the Hebridean island of Berra: "Not of the seed of Adam are we, Nor is Abraham our Father, but of the Seed of the Proud Angel driven from Heaven." This is from the land where the fossilized giant was uncovered.

At Skinwalker Ranch the towering figure clad all in black left behind boot prints that were 18 inches long. Judging from the size of this extraterrestrial humanoid, it is no wonder that the Nephilim were giants.

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The Giants of Patagonia Part II

2007-02-26T18:12:31Z

The Giants of Patagonia
by Mary Alice Bennett

Part II

In 1520 the first explorers to see the coast of Patagonia in South America were greeted by a waving naked giant. His tribe was called the Tehuelches. The sailors onboard the ship of Ferdinand de Magallanes were astonished to see the giant consume half a bucket of water at a gulp. In height, the sailors only reached to his waist. This tribe who lived so close to Antarctica clothed themselves in guanaco cloaks. Huge skeletons of their ancestors, who had been even taller, were found in that area. Footprints of giants left in living rock can be found all over the world.

Magellan`s encounter with the Patagonian giants was recorded by his on-board chronicler Antonio Pigafetta, a Venetian nobleman who was a Knight of Rhodes. He was one of only 17 survivors who sailed around the world on the Magellan 5 ship expedition in 1519. He hoped to find adventure and "to gain some renown for later posterity." They set sail from Siviglia "for the purpose of going to discover the spicery in the Islands of Maluco under the command of Captain -general Fernando de Magaglianes, a Portuguese gentleman, comendador of the Order of St. James of the Sword." Pigafetta`s diary was published in Italian, French, Spanish, and later into English. It influenced the writings of Shakespeare, Baudelaire, and Poe. Shakespeare based his character Caliban in "The Tempest" on Pigafetta`s account of the Patagonian giant.

Charles Darwin also sailed around the world and encountered the original inhabitants of Argentina. He described their long flowing black hair, their suits, cloaks and tents made from the hides of the guanaco, a species of llama. Their faces, he said, were painted red and black with one of them painted with his eyes ringed in white with white dots in the manner of the Fuegians of Tierra del Fuego. In one of the cave paintings of southern Patagonia, a five foot jaguar is painted in red with black dots. The Native face painting probably represents this animal. Archeologists identify the cave art as a jaguar of the extinct subspecies Panthera onca mesembrina. It is accompanied by guanaco figures in red and white. The imprint of a giant bird track is also seen in the murals. The Indians hunted ostriches and guanacos with their bolas made of long thongs tied to 2 throwing stones.

Darwin considered the natives to be wild, formidable, and lacking in culture. He would have been surprised to learn that their language consisted of over 30,000 words as compiled by the Reverend Thomas Bridges. Some have compared their Yaghan language to Hebrew while wondering how that could ever have come to be.

The voyage of the Beagle was 300 years after Magellan. At that time the Fuegians were still patrolling the straits in their huge log and hide canoes. Darwin described two naked Indian women that he had seen while in the straits. One looked up at him from her canoe while nursing an infant. They were both drenched in rain and the cold spray from the ocean. Another curious mother watched him "whilst the sleet fell and thawed on her skin and on her baby." The steepness of the cliffs of Cape Horn prevented their landing.

Captain Joshua Slocum was warned before he sailed his sloop through Thieves Strait at night. A friend armed him with a bag of carpet tacks for his passage. Before the Captain retired for the night, he sprinkled the tacks onto the deck of his ship. He awoke to the howls of the barefoot marauders as they climbed aboard. Some returned to their canoes bellowing while the rest dived overboard while protesting loudly. The Captain did not need to fire a shot, although he did fire some rounds after their departure.

Giant human bones were discovered in Peru as well as in Patagonia. The Indians told legends of these former inhabitants who had been destroyed for their transgressions.

Charles Darwin denied the existence of the giants of Patagonia. These Yaghans of such great height could have been seen to confirm the stories of the Biblical giants, thus destroying his entire theory of evolution. Sadly the original inhabitants of southern South America were killed off by European diseases.

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Giants in the Americas Part 1

2007-02-26T18:11:31Z

Giants in the Americas - Death Valley, California - Cavern Temple of the Giants
by Mary Alice Bennett

Posted: 00.19 January 27, 2007

Part I

Did giants ever live in North America?
Is there proof that giants once lived and raised families in North America? Stories and newspaper accounts attest to amazing discoveries of huge elaborate caves and mines, gold spears and polished granite inscribed with mystical symbols. Witnesses have reported their discoveries to the Smithsonian Institute and have been promised compensation. Yet, the Smithsonian, archaeologists and other scientists are silent as to the discoveries and have hidden all evidence that is contrary to Darwinian theory of evolution.

The following are actual accounts of giants in North America.

"Atlantis in the Colorado River Desert" - 1947 Nevada news: Near the Nevada - California - Arizona border area, 32 caves within a 180 square mile area were discovered to hold the remains of ancient, strangely costumed 8 -9 foot giants. They had been laid to rest wearing the skins of unknown animals similar to sheepskins fashioned into jackets with pants described as "prehistoric Zoot- suits". The same burial place had been found 10 - 15 years earlier by another man who made a deal with the Smithsonian. The evidence of his find was stolen and covered up by Darwinian scientists.

Dr. F. Bruce Russell had come to Death Valley from the east coast. He had taken up mining in the west for the sake of his health and was exploring across the Colorado River into Arizona. What he found he described as the burial place of a tribal hierarchy within the ritual hall of an ancient people. He felt that some unknown catastrophe had driven them into these caves. All of the implements of their civilization were there, including household utensils and stoves. Dr. Russell reported seeing hieroglyphics chiseled on carefully polished granite within what appeared to be a cavern temple. Another cave led to their sacred hall which contained carvings of ritual devices and markings similar to those of the Masonic Order. A long tunnel from this temple led to a room where, Hill said, "Well-preserved remains of dinosaurs, saber-toothed tigers, imperial elephants, and other extinct beasts were paired off in niches as if on display."

Ten to fifteen years earlier the caves had been seen by another miner who had fallen from the bottom of a mineshaft. In his book, "Death Valley Men", Bourke Lee related a conversation among residents of Death Valley concerning the local Paiute Native American legends of an underground city at Wingate Pass. After falling through the ceiling of an unknown tunnel, the miner had followed it 20 miles north of the Panamint Mountains to discover a huge ancient underground city. He saw arching stone vaults with huge stone doors and a polished round table in the center of their council chamber which had once been lit by ingenious lights fueled by subterranean gases. Leaning against the walls were their tall gold spears. He said that the designs on their thick golden armbands resembled the work of the Egyptians. The tunnel ended at an exit overlooking Furnace Creek Ranch in California`s Imperial Valley. He could see from there that the valley had once been underwater. The tunnel entrance had been a dock or a quay located halfway up the side of the mountain. A deal was made with the Smithsonian museum for the find, but the miner was betrayed by his partner. The evidence was stolen and the entrance concealed. In a 1940 a mining journal, another find was reported of much worked gold found in an 8 mile long cave near San Bernadino.

University of Arizona professor Vine Deloria, himself a Native American, made a similar accusation against the Smithsonian for covering up the remains found within the burial mounds of the Moundbuilder civilization. Surviving diaries from before the time Darwin attest to these discoveries. The Moundbuilders were a different civilization than that of the Indians, they said. The mounds contained the remains of hundreds of giants along with the bones of giant mastodons. In Cincinnati, Ohio the giant bones were found with large shields, swords, and engraved stone tablets. In Kentucky and Tennessee the bones of "powerful men of towering stature" were excavated. One of these 7 foot men was buried with an engraved copper plate beneath his head. A
woman was also found. She was wearing a silver girdle with letters written on it. The Detroit Free Press reported in 1884 the discovery in Gartersville, Mississippi of the remains of a giant with waist-length jet-black hair. He was wearing a copper crown. With him in his timber burial vault were his children who wore garments decorated with bone beads. The tomb was covered with large flagstones engraved with inscriptions.

In Cayuga, Niagra there is a place called "The Cemetary of the Giants" which was discovered in 1880. Those giants were 9 feet tall and appear to have died violent deaths. Their axes were found with them. Giant bones were also unearthed from a rock fissure on Lake Erie Island. In some of the finds of giant bones, the bones lay in confusion as if left on a battlefield. The Smithsonian does display some artifacts of the Moundbuilders found with the bones of the giants - shell discs and carved stone beads. Many of the bones turned to powdery ash within a short time of being exposed to the air. The Smithsonian has been reluctant to test some less fragile finds. The late Vine Deloria said that it is because they "Mightent find a really early date for the bones" and that it would be distressing - distressing to their Darwinian time-line.

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Female Nephilim?

2007-02-19T03:28:51Z

If occurred to me the other day that I have never heard of a female offspring from the union of a human woman and angel...I thought this point very intersting. No female giants, for example, or any of the other types of hybrids in the stories of old...anyone have any thoughts on this?

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ANGELS FLYING TO CLOSE TO THE GROUND

2007-01-31T06:55:27Z

The Passenger:
Angel’s flying to close to the ground
And the Brown Bible placed by the Guidians
It was that person who appeared at just the right time, think back to a time when things just seemed so hopeless. It was a friendly face, with a soothing word.
In this small world you’ve seen them since.

They often hide their secret wings………..
But it was something they said……. that ascending thought
It was not a thought like your own
Yet it burns in your mind…………still

I came to New Orleans with a bag on my back and a small amount of money that the Marine Corp. had put into a small account for me during my training at Parris Island.
Mt father warned me of the dangers of country mouse in the big city. He said,” They’ll see you coming.”
This city was for the criminal type. There was voodoo in the orah of these mean streets.
On the night of my arrival, I had no clue, as to which way to go. Where to live? Where to get a job? Or even who to trust? I followed stranger’s directions to Jackson Square at Decatur Street. The first thing I noticed was the pantomimes. Then I tried mingling with the street kids that called themselves, Gutter punks. I was invited to a place called a squat. but that didn’t appeal to me a the time, The idea of sleeping with a bunch of runaways on serious drugs, under a bridge. They each had names like Piolot, Saraphim, Frost, and Dragon. One of them looked at the tattoo on my right arm, from the Marine corp., He called me Passenger. That is who I was to become know and.
This was also an appropriate name considering the present circumstance.
As it was getting dark, I noticed a man that was wearing a white robe and was barefooted. He was very unique compared to all the others here. In fact, he very much resembled an image a Christ. He was standing alone as I approach from a distance. He had this strange sort of telepathy that seemed to be crying out; Lord they know not what they do... I tried to hide my face from him, as I walked closer, but, he saw me coming.
However he didn’t stop anyone else that past, or even speak a word to them. He put up a powerful invisible blockade in front of me. The he said,”oh I see you made it here; we would have expected you sooner”. I said” how are you doing and” a conversation begin between us. I could tell that this man had a mission, but so did I. I had so much on my mind however the things that he said were very soothing and put me at ease. I shook his hand and attempted to walk away, but he did not let go of my hand. With his other hand a brown bible placed by the guidians emerged. He said,” you’ll need this However I declined the offer and told him;” my burden is already to large to carry, Ill obtain one latter” He looked disappointed and un-moved as we parted.
Latter that evening a guy named Jeff. He brought me to a small dive bar at the end of Decatur called “the Hideout” He invited me to sleep over on his couch.
Upon arrival I couldn’t help, but, notice all the street kids lying all over the house. The was called the stabbing cabin. It was here that I begin to experiment with new ways of doing drugs. It was here also that I met Tommy know on these vampire streets as Onyx, who latter became my sidekick and roommate. That night however as innocent as I was I found a spot in the corner and fell asleep.
A few days latter I found a job at café D’ Monde
One day as I was caring a try of beneits to my section, I was shocked to see that strange Jesus looking guy from the first day. He was sitting at one of my tables with a group of youths having devotion. They were studying from a brown bible placed by the guidians. We held a brief conversation and that’s the last time I ever saw him again
A few weeks latter a few kids came over to the house to crash of Jeff’s notorios couch... one of them was named Joe and the other was named angel(ironically).The next morning a note had been left on the couch addressed to the passenger….It said………
Someone told us awhile back to give this to the passenger and we figured that MUST BE YOU. It was that same brown bible placed by the guidians. I took the bible and kept it in my back pack for a long time after that.
A few years went by and I was currently waiting to be released after a month long stay in the Orleans parish prison. Soon after I was released I started walking. I didn’t know where I was going to go. I just started walking. I literally walked circles around the city over and over again. Until I came to a hidden road that I’d never noticed before. I started down that road. First I came to a drug clinic, but a sign on the door said closed for the weekend. Then I came to a homeless center. I was greeted by a maintenance man who told me to come back Monday. But I knew my sobriety would never last that long. Then I saw a church. I just knew this was it. However the doors were locked coldly. I broke down on my knees into frenzy. Then I started back down the road in tears.
I came by a small out of place Circular Park around a fountain. There were two old ladies sitting there reading brown bibles placed by the guidians. I tried to hide my tears as I walked by, but, to my surprised they noticed my distress and called me over
When I approached them they asked me what was wrong. I told them I was lost. They said you don’t look lost. Then I told them my story. I said that all I ever wanted is for people to be proud of me.
They each had comforting words. They told me of there sons similar struggles in the past and how Christ helped them to be over-comers. There was something very odd about these two old Africa America ladies though. They were wearing mostly white. They also had a very nostalgic demeanor about them as if they were not from this age. We prayed together. As we parted they said” we would have expected you sooner. Then one of them reached behind her back and handed me that bible placed by the guidians.
I had to look at it twice. I accepted the bible and went my way feeling my comfortable then before.
After a short walk I found a strange starfish shaped crystal ball. I picked it up and saw my self in a stage kaleidoscopic reflection. I carried it along with me
I came to the Salvation Army. I stood outside across the street meditating and contemplating my next move. I was staring at the inhabitants of the center who were eating in the lower level cafeteria though a pain glass widow for about 30 min. I said to myself this must be it and I proceeded across the road. When I got to the door of the cafeteria a man came to unlock the door with a smile on his face. I let go of my pants with my hand that had been holding up my pants to reach for the handled of the door.
Suddenly, with a large amount of people watching in anticipation, my paints fell to my feet. I had been giving those paints without a belt when I left jail because when I went to jail I was in pajama bottoms. Everyone put there hand over there mouths in disbelief and the man quickly shut the door. He must have thought I was some flasher, especially since I’d been starring at them for so long. I left my new crystal ball at the door and told myself that I’d be back. But I never retuned there.
It wasn’t long before I found myself in jail again. At this time I was in the receiving tier. I’d lost my brown bible awhile back. It was terrible in there especially if you are a white boy. I stayed to myself in a cell that was littered with tooth-paste graffiti of the local gangs and wards. A few days went by and a man rolled in one night. He came to my door and asked if he could bunk here. There was something different about him though. He referred to me as Passenger. He told me that he would be fasting for the next few days and he asked me to join him. He told me that during the fast that I would experience spiritual signs. He reached behind his back and pulled out a brown bible placed by the guidians. I already knew this to be a sign. He said he just happened to have it when he was arrested but I knew better. He was no ordinary man and this was no ordinary book.
We scrubbed all the obscene graffiti off of the walls. However there was one such icon that wouldn’t come off easily. It was a dark Smokey looking picture of a demon with the name Dragon king with glowing red eyes and it was located right above my bed. It had a tribal looking crown on his head. This demon would latter show himself in my life in person and in force. I scrubbed it off with struggle. Now that the cell had been cleansed I begin to write scripture from the brown bible on the walls were the graffiti had been. It still existed the next time I came to jail 4 month’s latter but the strange thing was that the demon on the ceiling had returned also.
The day came for my cell-mate to roll out. As he headed for the door I said “hey you never told me your name and he said Jabreil it’s Jabreil. I was alone for a few more days until I was transferred upstairs
When I first entered my new tier I noticed a man turned facing the wall with the back of his head facing me. I first thought him to be jabrel , because from behind his resembled him perfectly. However when he turned around his face was a bit different.
However, he did recognize me somehow. He said we would have expected you sooner.
That night we had a small bible study. They called my new friend Rev. because he would go to the shower’s and sing praises and glory halleluiah’s to the wall with his face to the wall. We could always hear him load and clear way out in the tier all day and all night long……….but I believe he intended it that way…..loud and proud. He rebuked the demons in the room and after the study I asked him if he knew anything about demons……..He said, they are very tall shadow like creatures with piercing white endless eyes. He sad that when (not if) I see them ignore them and whatever I do not walk towards them. He said that when a demon leaves the body your neck will stretch out long because the demon is franticly search for a new dweling, but he will retune someday with 7 brothers. He told me to get some sleep because I’d be rolling out tomorrow’s don’t know how he could have possibly known that because I still had pending charges. The next morning I woke up to the sound of a guard turning the keys and calling my name to roll out ……the charges were dropped that morning I looked for my new friend to ask him how he knew……yet know body seemed to know who I was talking about.
I was back on the streets again. I found my self back on Jackson square. There was a lady there reading tarot cards. They called her lady six. She was an older lady yet I couldn’t help but be drawn to her somehow. My friend onyx grabbed me by the shoulder and spun me around an said don’t look at her man she’s a succubus…I looked back at her again and where I’d seen a rather attractive women I now saw a old lady in rags. Later that night I saw her at a dance club called the shim sham. She was somehow dancing gracefully across the dance floor. There was a haze in the room. It seemed as if we just become alone. She looked so young. She almost seemed to float as she made her way over to the bar towards me. Without one word being spoken between us she breathed a strange word in my ear and the bit me on the neck while snatching a medallion off of my neck that I had worn for years because I could see my reflection in it …..It had given me much strength in needy times …..Sort of look at yourself in the mirror effect... I looked for her for weeks to come but she was nowhere to be found ever again... The tarot card readers told me she’d either taken my medallion to put voodoo on my or to send protection over me……either way I figured she’d done some strange ritual with it and it was certainly aimed at me. I latter found out she moved out to California where she had died from cancer.
Before long I was back out there worse than ever. I started doing things I never thought a man straight man could do. This is why they say drugs are bad. I started dancing in bars. The nights were long and embarrassing and what’s worse is that I actually was getting comfortable doing this for money.
One night several of my regular paying customers took on their true form. This was a strange night ended. The moon outside was an evil crescent orange moon. They came in one after the other and they each tipped me $2 a piece. This was strange because to my knowledge, none of them knew each other, and they all usually tipped better than that. My customers literally covered the bar. I felt like a lamb to the slaughter. They all seemed to have a telepathy that said that my blood would be a feast for them if I did not leave the French quarter within the next 2 days when the moon had eclipsed. I now suspected them to be acting out some vampire like ritual. I went over to the pool table to shot a game. There was a strange street kid standing in the corner with a black hood over his head watching. He whisperingly called me over and he told me that these streets are meant to kill you. He said, “one day a kid is everywhere and then the next day he will be nowhere to be found and no-one seems to know what happened to him, because most street people are either always going to jail or going back out of town when the going get’s tough. After all this is a transient city. He said that you really have to have what it takes out here. I did have an ante rage of mophioso-like friends so I felt safe out here. However I thought about what he had said and I realized that what he said did bear some truth because many of my friends had vanished over time and come to think about it I did remember seeing on the news not long ago that several bodies of local street kids had been turning up in neighboring towns around New Orleans and they fit my profile to a tee.
When I left the bar that night I was knocked out with a brick, by several guys from one of the rival clicks. I was robbed for $1200 that I had saved-up to get a place of my own. What’s worse is that they had taken my I.D. that I would need to continue at my job and without it how was I ever to get a new job. I somehow dragged myself off of the ground unconsciously in a blood-trail into one of my familiar after work bar rooms. When I entered the bar all I remember is standing at the door saying what happened. As everyone in there saw me holding my blood soaked head and they were all screaming. Then I hit the ground again.
I woke up 2 days that morning latter on the bar tenders couch at his house. I had been in a concussion. I did not know what I was going to do but I left his house desperate for a fix hoping to bump in to one of my customer’s that would have some sympathy on me and give me some money. Instead I met a strange man named John Drake. He gave me a card with a picture of him standing in a bell tower with addressed him as a voodoo priest. He gave me some strange coins and told me to spend them wisely. He then told me that if
I was still around latter tonight that he would be able to help me more. Then he just vanished into the shadow as I was observing the strangeness of these coins. It was if he’d given me the money just so I’d stick around till latter that night. That’s when I remembered the premonition about the 2 day’s and this was 2 days latter now. .
I walked around a little longer until I met a friend of mine at the club called the Voodoo. next to the ninth circle(Dante) bar on the old ramparts street that used to be a slave market. He asked me to take a ride with him out to the used bookstore in the old maraney district. When we got there I noticed a stack of book in the back of the store. I searched through the stack of dusty books until one particular book jumped out at me,
It was that brown bible placed by the guidians. I bought it with one of the silver dollars that the strange man had given to me earlier. After we left I asked him to drive around for awhile so that I could get my head together, so we drove in circles around the marine. Then it started to rain hard. A terrible feeling came over me. He was talking but his words were not his-own. He was telling me that. I’ve got you know, you’ve just dead and this is hell come to earth. I looked down at the clock and it had seemed to stop. The whole world was at a stand still. Nothing was moving but me and he and I knew that my 2 days were almost up. I wondered what I had missed. Had we had a wreck in the rain……was I really dead?
We were approaching a railroad crossing. I was white knocking my bible. At that moment I looked up at the very to of an old abandoned train house building. At a high that I figured know one would climb too and on it was spray-painted a very small black cross. I knew this was my sign. The Brown bible in my hand was burning hot. I immediately said STOP THE CAR. When I jumped out of the car I look ahead up the street to the railroad crossing the the cross lights were blinking from green to yellow and then they blacked out as if the power had shut down. The railroad was blind-spotted to on coming traffic by two ole train houses, where on coming traffic would depend on the light to know if a train was coming an the light was out and I head a train coming. I knew this was the hand of the devil because id we would have proceeded on to our coarse we would have been killed. But wait the were outer cars coming now. They don’t know, I thought...Oh my God those innocent people don’t know. I stood in the middle of the road and blocked traffic while people were yelling at me to move from there car windows. Just then a red and black iron roaring train came screaming by. I looked up to thank God and the black cross was now gone. The world seemed to be back to normal and the sun came back out for an encore just before the night came.
We retuned back to the ramparts and I reflected back to the 2 day premonition and I started walking without direction away from the French quarter. I came through the hood when I noticed an old lady sitting on her porch. I asked he5r for some spare change for a bite to eat, but she must have known I really just wanted money to get loaded. She said “I have no money but let me see if I can go get you something to eat” wait here for a moment “she said as she walked around down the side alley of the house toward the back yard.
When she returned, she was not alone. There with her were suddenly were about 30 men of all ages. They made a circle around my before I could react. The old lady said” we would have expected you sooner” They all started praying in tongues and I was frozen in a state of shock. I was having hot flashes. My knees buckled under me as a man put on leather gloves as if to apprehend me like a cop. Then another person came up behind me and laid his hands on me and prayed. Then I fainted. When I came too,
They told me that I was at the Mary Magdalene house of recovery. They started telling me stories of how they were once all just like me. Blinded but now they see, I couldn’t believe the irony of this. How I had stumbled upon a small house in the ghetto and it had turned out to be a re-hab that just also happened to be a Christ center. They told me they were just heading out to church when I came by and they invited me to come along. I declined and told them I’d be back tomorrow because I had some business to take care of first, but I think they knew the real reason
I started walking down the street with my eyes closed. Then I was rushed by a mighty wind into a trance like vision. In the vision I was right here and right now. This was a vision of now. In the vision I was walking along when I stepped into a small ankle deep hole. I fell to the ground and as the hole grew larger and larger sucking me under little by little like quick sand until I was trapped in an abyss. Then I opened my eyes and snapped out of it an I heard the voice of what I took to be God saying “If you ever walk away from me again I will pull you under” Then it was if it had never happened and I was standing at the gates of an Old weed covered cathedral and a hidden from the street courtyard surrounded by live oaks and willows.
I entered the courtyard and inside was this entire ancient looking mold covers statues of angels and saints. I walked over to a statue of Mother Mary and it shed down a bronze colored tear. I prayed for forgiveness at her feet. As I looked up I noticed that all of the statues of the angels were pointing toward one direction. That’s the direction I walked when I exited the gate.
It began to rain again and I found my way to a familiar drug house. The guys inside hipped me to the idea that the neighbors had some power tools in their back-yard and if I would climb over the fence to steal them that we could all make some money and that they already had a buyer waiting. I went and hit the lick and returned with a trimmed and a weed eater. One of the guys and me went walking down the road in the rain with an umbrella a stolen trimmer and a weed eater seemingly flying prideful like a guiding flag. I was the first to notice the police curser that had just passed us and was now turning around. I tried to stop him but he walked right into them. Off to jail again…….
The Rev. was here again also. This time however he had a huge jailhouse ministry. People came from all around on our days on the yard to hear him preach. He would sing out-load “Halleluiah…..all glory to ya… In the name of Immanuel…honor and glory…. in the name of Jesus……. father I love you” in a beautiful angelic hymn. Then one night came and he prayed out-load for his own release. The next morning came and he was released. As he was leaving I asked him what he did to get put in here and he said he just came to do Gods will. Then he gave me that Brown bible placed by the guidians and asked me to take over the bible study. I knew that this meant that I would have to also host the morning devotion and bless the food at chow. The last thing he did before he left the dorm is address the inmates pointing over to my saying “this man is anointed by God, let no harm come to Gods chosen servant” Nervous as I was I did my job for the next few weeks. Then one night I prayed for my release. The next morning the charges were dropped and I was free again.
I went strait to the bartender’s house that had helped me before. As I was knocking on his door a neighbor came over and asked me who I was looking for. I said Michel. He then told me that Michel is dead. That they had found him this morning. They suspected suicide. I used this a an excuse to relapse again
Then I walked to the garden district where Anne rice and Trent razor live. There was the opportunity of a horse of a different color out here…….rich people…..and that meant $$$$ I started robbing cars that were unlocked for spare change or anything that I could find. I would rip a run and rip and run. Before I knew it I’d been coming out here for weeks. I would walk until I couldn’t walk any more for days at time and I would only stop when I couldn’t go any longer and the I would find the nearest house to crawl under to hide and go to sleep.
One night when I was out robbing I came to a car that was tented with a very dark window. I couldn’t see what was in it but I could see my reflection very well. I saw myself dressed in all black wearing a toboggan. With a backpack full of burglary tools. I looked down at my reflection for a-while. Then I looked down at my feet and I noticed that I was standing on a spay-painted neighborhood watch sign. And in the sign was a demonic looking bugurlar depicted wearing all black with endless white diamond shaped eyes and wearing a sinister black hat. Like the spy-spy cartoon and also the loge for the entrance to the hideout bar that I had gone to when I first came to New Orleans. I looked at the sign and then I looked at my own reflection in the car window then I looked down and then up again. The man in the painting was me. I was the neighborhood prowler. What had I become, I thought to myself? How have I gotten away with this for so long? Somebody has to have put 2 and 2 together by now. Seeing me around somebody is bound to have called the cops. I considered myself lucky and I left the garden district for good.
I started walking up Louisiana Street toward Mid-city. I came to an old church with a bell tower. It was the same tower that I remembered from the business card of the voodoo priest John Drake. I stopped to stare at it for to long…….There it (he) was. Perched like an eagle waiting patiently for his pray. Like a gargoyle. It was the demon I remembered depicted above my bed each time I went to jail. (See photo #13 in pics)
I ran as I could all the way across town to mid-city. I ran into a back yard to catch my breath. There where I thought was a brush of bushes was a motion. Then I realized that those were not bushes at all. It stood up with red glowing eyes and spread its wings. This thing was huge. Very muscular……..with horns that seemed to curl down under his chin. I ran for my life until I came to st. Louis cemetery’s I looked back there he was standing there like a tall dark shadow with a statue of liberty like crown that also resembled a feather war-hat of some ancient Indian war chief. Around him was a legion of demons. Some of them( who I would latter call strong men) were wearing French looking napoleon style hats and they were also very tall and other’s were ware jester looking hats that you see at mardie-gras with sad faces an they were flying around and were very small. There leader, who I would latter call Legion, was carrying a red crystal ball black staff and this staff also had two horns (see#77photo in pics). They all seemed to be waving for me to come over to them. I thought back to when I was told to ignore them.
I ran into the st. Louis cemetery, It didn’t take long before the sprits here begin to peep there heads up though the ground. One by one. They all stared at me like curious frightened cats that didn’t seem to know that they were dead. It was if they would not move or run unless I moved first. I though this must be why the Egyptians honored cats.
Truly I was walking a line between the living and the dead. I fell asleep in the cemetery that night.
The next morning I went walking around mid city bumming change at the street car line. Then I went walking through the neighborhoods……just for the sake of walking. I was determined to turn over a new leaf. I had noticed a strange man who was walking around also. Every street I turned down he seemed to be just over on the next block.
Finally after I walked down a dead end street and was walking back out of it we collided. I couldn’t avoid him now. He said that he was house shopping and he asked me if I could show him if any houses were available. We walked around for a bit till I popped the question. Do you have any spare change for a little food? He said, no but if you come with me we could take care of that problem. I followed him over a few streets to a big new church. We walked into a kitchen and he gave me some food. He asked if he could pray for me and I said yes. His started praying in tongues. When he was finished he asked me if I had ever prayed in tongues and said no. He said just let your tongue click. So I tried it but it sounded forced and I don’t think it was the holly spirit at that time. He then took me thru the sanctuary into a small office. On the wall, I was surprised to see was a picture of him dressed in robe. I asked are you the……he stopped me……the preacher he said….Yes I am .Then he reached into his desk and pulled out that brown bible placed by the guidians. I opened it up and there staring me in the face was the page I had folded down the last time I had read it.

Imagine now if you will music playing
The Rollings Stones cover of the old blues song
Please don’t go to New Orleans\

BABY PLEASE DON’T GO
BABY PLEASE DON’T GO=O
BABY PLEASE DON’T GO DOWN TO NEW ORLEANS
BABY PLEASE DON’T GO---YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU SO
BABY PLEASE DON’T GO

The Animals: House of the Riseing Sun
THERE IS A HOUSE IN NEW ORLEANS
THEY CALL THE RISSING SUN
AND IT’S BEEN THE RUINS OF MANY A POOR BOY
AND GOD I KNOW I’M ONE

I latter realized my demons were real
When looking at the mardi-gras I saw the king of marti gras of the zulu parade
He was wereing that same crown and hie name is Rex
Every one is wearin those little jestor hats
And I have a feeling real demons are mixed in the crowd behind some of those masks
I latter suffered threw Katrina (purification) and was left for dead in the Orleans Parrish prison for dead (see my post in various tribes Gaia, conspiracy,)

And what about that brown bible placed by the GUARDIANS
Got it right here beside me right now

They often hide their secret wings………..
But it was something they said……. that ascending thought
It was not a thought like your own
Yet it burns in your mind…………still

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Brilliant God-Beings

2007-01-31T04:56:05Z

Sneak Preview of the Kingdom of God!
http://ezinearticles.com/?&id=114590

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Six finger's six toe and a big bed if Iron

2007-01-28T00:34:59Z

Ge 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
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5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. {every...: or, the whole imagination: the Hebrew word signifieth not only the imagination, but also the purposes and desires} {continually: Heb. every day}
Ge 8:21; De 29:19; Pr 6:18; Mt 15:19
2Sa 21:19 And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. {Jaareoregim: or, Jair}
2Sa 23:24; 1Ch 20:5
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20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. {the giant: or, Rapha}
1Ch 20:6
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21 And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea the brother of David slew him. {defied: or, reproached} {Shimea: also called, Shammah}
1Sa 16:9; 17:10,25-26
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22 These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
1Ch 20:8
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1Ch 20:5 And there was war again with the Philistines; and Elhanan the son of Jair slew Lahmi the brother of Goliath the Gittite, whose spear staff was like a weaver's beam. {Jair: also called, Jaareoregim}
1Sa 17:7; 2Sa 21:19
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6 And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot: and he also was the son of the giant. {great...: Heb. measure} {the son...: Heb born to the giant, or, Rapha}
2Sa 21:20
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7 But when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea David's brother slew him. {defied: or, reproached} {Shimea: also called Shammah}
1Sa 16:9
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8 These were born unto the giant in Gath; and they fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
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Og

(giant, literally long-necked), an Amoritish king of Bashan, whose rule extended over sixty cities.

Jos 13:12

He was one of the last representatives of the giant race of Rephaim, and was, with his children and his people, defeated and exterminated by the Israelites at Edrei immediately after the conquest of Sihon.

Nu 32:33; De 3:1-13

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De 1:4; 4:47; 31:4; Jos 2:10; 9:10; 13:12,30

The belief in Og's enormous stature is corroborated by an allusion to his iron bedstead preserved in "Rabbath of the children of Ammon."

De 3:11 Jos 13:12 All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.

(B.C. 1461.)
Nu 32:33 And Moses gave unto them, even to the children of Gad, and to the children of Reuben, and unto half the tribe of Manasseh the son of Joseph, the kingdom of Sihon king of the Amorites, and the kingdom of Og king of Bashan, the land, with the cities thereof in the coasts, even the cities of the country round about.
Nu 21:24,33,35; De 3:12-17; 29:8; Jos 12:1-6; 13:8; 22:4

1 Then we turned, and went up the way to Bashan: and Og the king of Bashan came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Edrei.
Nu 21:33-35; De 1:4; 29:7
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2 And the LORD said unto me, Fear him not: for I will deliver him, and all his people, and his land, into thy hand; and thou shalt do unto him as thou didst unto Sihon king of the Amorites, which dwelt at Heshbon.
Nu 21:34
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3 So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people: and we smote him until none was left to him remaining.
Nu 21:35
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4 And we took all his cities at that time, there was not a city which we took not from them, threescore cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan.
De 3:13-14; 1Ki 4:13
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5 All these cities were fenced with high walls, gates, and bars; beside unwalled towns a great many.
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6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.
De 2:24,34-35; Ps 135:10-12; 136:19-21
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7 But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities, we took for a prey to ourselves.
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8 And we took at that time out of the hand of the two kings of the Amorites the land that was on this side Jordan, from the river of Arnon unto mount Hermon;
De 4:48; Jos 12:6; 13:8-12
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9 (Which Hermon the Sidonians call Sirion; and the Amorites call it Shenir;)
De 4:48; 1Ch 5:23; Ps 29:6
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10 All the cities of the plain, and all Gilead, and all Bashan, unto Salchah and Edrei, cities of the kingdom of Og in Bashan.
De 4:49; Jos 12:5; 13:11
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11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
Ge 14:5; 2Sa 12:26; Jer 49:2; Eze 21:20; Am 2:9
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12 And this land, which we possessed at that time, from Aroer, which is by the river Arnon, and half mount Gilead, and the cities thereof, gave I unto the Reubenites and to the Gadites.
Nu 32:33; De 2:36; Jos 12:2,6; 13:8-12
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13 And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
Jos 13:29
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14 Jair the son of Manasseh took all the country of Argob unto the coasts of Geshuri and Maachathi; and called them after his own name, Bashanhavothjair, unto this day.
Nu 32:41; Jos 13:13; 2Sa 3:3; 10:6; 1Ch 2:22
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15 And I gave Gilead unto Machir.
Nu 32:39-40
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16 And unto the Reubenites and unto the Gadites I gave from Gilead even unto the river Arnon half the valley, and the border even unto the river Jabbok, which is the border of the children of Ammon;
Nu 21:24; Jos 12:2; 2Sa 24:5
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17 The plain also, and Jordan, and the coast thereof, from Chinnereth even unto the sea of the plain, even the salt sea, under Ashdothpisgah eastward. {Ashdothpisgah; or, the springs of Pisgah, or, the hill}
Ge 14:3; Nu 34:11-12; De 4:49; Jos 12:3
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18 And I commanded you at that time, saying, The LORD your God hath given you this land to possess it: ye shall pass over armed before your brethren the children of Israel, all that are meet for the war. {meet...: Heb. sons of power}
Nu 32:20
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19 But your wives, and your little ones, and your cattle, (for I know that ye have much cattle,) shall abide in your cities which I have given you;
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20 Until the LORD have given rest unto your brethren, as well as unto you, and until they also possess the land which the LORD your God hath given them beyond Jordan: and then shall ye return every man unto his possession, which I have given you.
De 12:9-10; Jos 22:4
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21 And I commanded Joshua at that time, saying, Thine eyes have seen all that the LORD your God hath done unto these two kings: so shall the LORD do unto all the kingdoms whither thou passest.
Nu 27:18,22-23
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22 Ye shall not fear them: for the LORD your God he shall fight for you.
Ex 14:14; De 1:30; 20:4
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23 And I besought the LORD at that time, saying,
2Co 12:8-9
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24 O Lord GOD, thou hast begun to shew thy servant thy greatness, and thy mighty hand: for what God is there in heaven or in earth, that can do according to thy works, and according to thy might?
Ex 15:11; De 5:24; 11:2; 2Sa 7:22; Ps 71:19; 86:8; 89:6,8
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De 3:3 So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people: and we smote him until none was left to him remaining.
Nu 21:35
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4 And we took all his cities at that time, there was not a city which we took not from them, threescore cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan.
De 3:13-14; 1Ki 4:13
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5 All these cities were fenced with high walls, gates, and bars; beside unwalled towns a great many.
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6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.
De 2:24,34-35; Ps 135:10-12; 136:19-21
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7 But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities, we took for a prey to ourselves.
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8 And we took at that time out of the hand of the two kings of the Amorites the land that was on this side Jordan, from the river of Arnon unto mount Hermon;
De 4:48; Jos 12:6; 13:8-12
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9 (Which Hermon the Sidonians call Sirion; and the Amorites call it Shenir;)
De 4:48; 1Ch 5:23; Ps 29:6
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10 All the cities of the plain, and all Gilead, and all Bashan, unto Salchah and Edrei, cities of the kingdom of Og in Bashan.
De 4:49; Jos 12:5; 13:11
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11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
Ge 14:5; 2Sa 12:26; Jer 49:2; Eze 21:20; Am 2:9

De 4:47 And they possessed his land, and the land of Og king of Bashan, two kings of the Amorites, which were on this side Jordan toward the sunrising;
Nu 21:33-35; De 3:3-4

Jos 13:12 All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.
Nu 21:24,35; De 3:11; Jos 12:4

Giants

General References to Nefilim
Ge 6:4
Nu 13:33
De 2:11
De 2:20
De 3:11
Jos 17:15
Jos 18:16
1Sa 17:4
2Sa 21:16
2Sa 21:20

ANAKIM
Nu 13:28
De 1:28
De 2:10
De 9:2
Jos 11:21
Jos 14:15
Jos 15:14

EMIM
Ge 14:5
De 2:10
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I've seen Demon's /in New Orleans

2007-01-27T02:54:52Z

I've seen Demon's /in New Orleans

I used to be homeless in New Orleans, sleeping under houses, robbing, buglary, hustling, etc.
At appox. 3:00 a.m. (the devels hour, apposite of the miricle hour 3:00p.m., when Chist gave up his ghost, I latter learned)
Right outside of St. louis cemitary(oldest cemitary in New Orleans, perhaps even in the U.S.)
I started noticing these tall shadow people
They would alway's be about 20ft. behind me waving there hands for me to come forth
The leader had a tall statue of liberty like crown
It also could have been a Indian cheif feather warhat
All black claok, all black everything except for those eye's(white diamonds)
He had a legion of little demons(so I called him Legion) following him(they had little matie gras hats)jestor's I called them
He also had these handimen that were also very tall
They had French Napolion like hats(liken on the amadeous move cover)
It got worse and worse every night ........more and more.....
I also started seeing this giant green gorgoyle appearing solo in other parts of the city
very muscular reddish- green-maroon
He would pop up where bushes should have been on rooftop's and in bell towers
He had these horn's that curled around under his chin
For some reason this guy felt more dangeriuos than the others\
............................................
I went to jail many time's
In the jail is where I realised that I was not alone in my sighting's
I started noticing these etchings in almost every cell or teir I went to
These etching's weere smoky black and were exactly what I been seeing too.....
They had titles under them like the "Dragon KinG""Rex"
That's when I put two and two together"king Rex" the king of the martie gras paradre
Rex ware's this statue of liberty crown the zulu parade (the feather hat)
and the little jestores
New Orleans is a spokeey place for real man
It will made a believer out of anyone
It's no wonder Katrina(purification)
I was in jail and left for dead durring Katrina for 5 day's
only 2/3's of us made it out out of the old parrish prisson alive

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Demons/fallen angels

2006-12-20T02:38:29Z

Ok I have a question. One that I doubt anyone will be able to answer but....
It's said a lot that Demons are Fallen Angels, but are we sure that's what they are exactly? Because demons can't get women pregnant right? And in the old testament fallen angels got women pregnant and those women gave birth to giants. Plus, if demons are spirit beings, then how were the fallen angels "known to most as demons" walking around on the earth getting women pregnant? Ok just something to think about.
God Bless

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Angels amongst us...

2006-10-29T21:36:05Z

Aloha all. Just a quick note about a new tribe I started.

You'll know if it's right for you.

All the best!
Brett

http://tribes.tribe.net/celestial_warriors

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See the best of Russia

2006-09-18T07:23:15Z

Know more about Russia and feel the beauty of it to this site. Go to http://www.russiatraveltour.blogspot.com now.

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Angel movies?

2006-08-04T01:29:23Z

Okay, these tend to be pretty hokey - but there have been a few that have really and truly taken me to an amazing place.

One of these is "Always", a Steven Spielberg film with Richard Dreyfuss, John Goodman and Audrey Hepburn as an angel named "Hap". A real tear-jerker, though critics sort of slapped it good.

Another decent film that presents angels in an interesting way is "City Of Angels" with Nicolas Cage and Meg Ryan. If you were to believe this film, you'd get the impression that angels are pretty serious souls who miss what it's like to be human. But the concept that humanity is a gift is one that I'd like to explore more.

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Ever run into a succubis?

2006-06-18T05:25:11Z

I might not be spelling it right, and I always get incubi/succibi confused. I'm a girl. I think I would probably be bothered by succubi, right?

So, imagine this...you're weak, sick, or depressed (These episodes have only happened to me when I'm OFF my antidepressants). You try to sleep, and suddenly, you are jerked awake...but not really awake. You're paralyzed. You know that the lights are on, or the window is open...there should at least be some moonlight, coming into the room. But for some reason, there is nothing but blackness. And on top of you, there is this horrible, thick, black mass of something menacing. You don't want to inhale...because it will somehow get into your body, that way, and take over.

(shivers. I feel like I should smudge the house after writing that.)

This hasn't happened to me in a LONG time. I've learned how to take care of myself and protect my energy. However, I'm curious if anyone has had a similar experience.

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6-6-06

2006-06-09T10:40:19Z

It's *that* day...
Any comments on how you feel about it?

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New Tribe.

2006-04-08T10:27:33Z

Hope you all Enjoyed the Week/end! New tribe just started recently might want to check it out. This is the history and the making, sometimes sh!t happens along the way. This is where some of the problems go to the works. The same person who created the problem can not solve the problem something Albert Einstein once said. Well here's a piece of the puzzle

http://tribes.tribe.net/doohappens

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Malleus Maleficarum

2006-03-29T11:09:36Z

If you really want to know exactly what demons can and can't do acording to pauline scripture plus logical extrapalation read this. Yes this is the guild for the witch hunters of the spanish inquisition, but witches were thought to gain power only though devils. Consiquently most of the text is about what devils can and can not do. I think you all would like it where else would can you read about how fallen angels fit into gods master plan and continue to serve His will while making deals with witches and laugh at how seriusly they take the descution about exactly what manor of influance said witches may gain over a penis. Good insite, good laughs, Pope aproved (600 years ago at least)

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Hello

2006-03-22T04:32:45Z

I thought I should say Hello since I am new to this tribe.

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Others like me....Calling all angels

2006-03-15T03:42:03Z

Told by a stigmatic priest when I was 10 that I am one of only a (specific number) of Angels, recognized by the Vatican, here on Earth. Raised Catholic, much of what I've been taught is contradictory to my real life experiences.

I know that there are others like me..I dont know that I accept the title "Angel", but I will say that I do have experiences where I do 'feel' wings on my back (funny though, not really on my back, as portrayed in many pictures..the weight of them is felt more a few inches down from the base of my neck).

I've had many experiences thorughout my life with people from the afterlife. I have a recurring dream (the first dream I can remember as well) that I am battling Lucifer, the Devil, whatever one would like to call him. I have had this dream before I even knew what he was....It is a physical battle, "He" is more evil than ever portrayed in movies or books, and I am not afraid. I pretty much kick his ass. lol.

Anyway another few things worth mentioning... I have a deep sensitivity for the Earth, living things...people en masse. When there are wars...disasters, I weep. My whole body saddens. I cannot watch the news, as the terrible things ppl do also saddens me beyond words. Ironically, I am not a terribly compassionate or emotional person...

I am also very sensitive to death. I can "tell" when someone has passed on or something tragic has happened in a particular area, whether it be a house, on the sidewalk, in the woods...I feel it. Particular areas of civil wars is enough to physically bring me to my knees, and I have a difficult time breathing. I can also identify people with God given gifts like psychic ability. Phony's are easily identifiable.

New Orleans was not an ideal vacation localle for me. I felt much evil, and decay there. In light of the hurricane, I hesitated to bring it up. While there I had a psychic (true gifted person) grab onto me, begin shaking violently and tell me "You are what New Orleans needs..." "We need you here....." Of all the bizarre things I have experienced, that will forever be with me.... I still don't know exactly what she meant, but I wonder about it.... Which leads me to this website, this discussion....I know there are truly others like me... I need to talk to you.

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new here

2006-03-05T18:08:50Z

I read through some of your posts. I think this tribe is very brilliant. So I decided I would join. I just thought I would announce my presence and compliment you all. :)

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Shiny and New

2006-03-02T18:58:56Z

Hallo,
I'm new to the Tribe, and this particular Tribe really caught my eye and my interest.
Red.

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hello

2005-12-29T18:18:55Z

How is everybody out there??

Fine here.

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More on Lucifer

2005-11-28T03:36:24Z

Lucifer is actually Apollo, according to some scholars. The God of light, healing, music and prophecy. "Lucifer" is a Latin
name, and could not have been in the Old Testament. "Lucifer" was introduced as a mistranslation of "evening star" (apparently referring to Nebuchadnezzar).

Satan and Lucifer are not one in the same. Lucifer is more like Prometheus, as well (as "bringer of light"). So, Lucifer isn't really the Devil, at all, but simply a demonization of pagan Greek/Roman Gods.

Hence, it's no problem to be referred to as Lucifer. In fact, there was even a Saint (still considered a Saint), in the 4th Century AD named "Saint Lucifer".

So, any thoughts?

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dream angel .....any feedback please?

2005-11-18T04:18:54Z

a while back (a yr ago i think) before i joined tribes i had a dream where i was visited by the angel Gabriel.
i asked a few friends what this might mean but not too much on the matter ever became of it . i don't ever remember this kind of dream before or since it happened. it was very vivid. he had curly hair i remember, and we sorta bounced down a treacherous mt. somehow when i started to think we would gret hurt we started to mess up but the message i beleve was to just have faith an we would be alright an so it was and down we went....some one told me he was an angel to do battle here on earth for god agenst evil.
can anyone tell me anything about gabriel or the dream? or anything about such a visitation?
thanks .....oh an hello to you all! i just joined this tribe hope you can help out
peace

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How do YOU relate to Angels/Devils?

2005-11-06T15:07:26Z

So how come you all are just sticking to the Judeo-Christian "history" of Angels and "Devils"? It seems like there is some sorely lacking understanding of what the "other" side is all about.

Angels are NOT Christian or any other religion. And NEITHER are "devils" or demons. I just find it interesting that all of this is still happening even though the Angels have shown themselves in SO many ways that aren't Christian. And then in mainstream media, they are still shown with connotations of Christianity, etc.

How can we truly understand the other side if we stay in this limited point of view that MAN has put onto paper? Does anyone have any ideas of how to TRULY relate to the other side? How do you?

Mama Gaea

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Dark and the light side - or at least our perceptions of it.

2005-10-18T18:57:04Z

some folks have some interesting observations here. Im not going to get all religious on anyone (not my cup of tea to do so anyway). But lets look as some scenarios..

Fallen Angels, Devil? If you will (or consortium of them) were once Angels, all as brothers/sisters - entities. They did not have the "free will of man" so they chose another path. I don't wish to say a greater path of their own choosing or a lesser path in the eyes of God. But the Balance of the good and evil, you have to look at the stem.. the root was of God. He created man, angels (messengers), as well as birds and beasts.

At a sentient level of begining time all that we are became from him. And if we are doing all of Gods will, (predestined or paths of our own choosing) we must accept something.. the reality of Angels (Messengers), Devil (Fallen Angels), and the free will of man own choosing to have our own beliefs.

If we are damned for not being completely good (in Gods eyes) or if we are good enough to be dammed (in Devils eyes) we are all part of the same source, from God. (ok enough of the soapbox - these are only opinions from myself)

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Angels of the Playa

2005-10-04T06:21:24Z

she's from Reno..she has a 9 year old daughter..and i don't remember her name..she stayed at 9:40ish and bi-polar..

she is an angel..she helped save me thursday night on the playa
we meditated with the giant statues of the mother and daughter for a spell
we later found the friend that i had lost and we partied till dawn aboard the Space Wench..we all celebrated el predator's and orite's wedding at the temple!
amazing magikal beautiful
i would love to find her to thank her directly
thank you

i created a tribe called Angels of the Playa at: http://tribes.tribe.net/playangels
to help people find and thank each other for random and strategic acts of kindness selflessness and love..check it out

much love to you all..stay blessed and blissed!
-ton-ton-

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Raphael

2005-08-19T00:38:45Z

Does anyone else know Raphael? I mean KNOW him, talk to him, etc? I didn't know he was an angel for almost a year and a half after he started talking to me. I don't know who I thought he was, but not an angel. I always thought people who heard angels talking to them were kooky housewives who ended up selling books on talk shows. But I got very sick almost 2 and 1/2 years ago, and was in a coma for about 3 weeks. When I was waking up from it, I couldn't see, and couldn't move my body, and was not really aware of where I was. I was terrified, and kept trying to call for help, only because of the breathing tube, I couldn't even do that. But somebody came to help me, and had the most amazing calming voice. And he stayed with me. I just talked to him like I would talk to anyone, and when I asked his name, he said "Rafe." (pronounced Rah-fee.) I said, "like Rafael?" and he said, "yes but different." So all this time I thought his name was just Rafe. I never thought he was an angel. When I was in the coma, I had pancreatitis, ARDS, renal failure, and had less than 3% chance to be non vegetative.

About 6 months ago, I was talking to someone, and they asked me if I had ever thought my friend Rafe could be the angel Raphael? I hadn't, but when I started reading, the similarities were almost scary. Raphael is the patron saint of doctors and medical workers. He is the angel who is the most known to talk to "regular" people. And a symbol of his is the fish. When I came out of my coma, I had an arterial line in my left wrist that healed with a scar in the perfect shape of a fish. I had been joking with my friends that I must have been marked by a Pisces.

It sounds crazy to anyone else who has never talked with an angel before. His voice is the most beautiful voice I have ever heard. And he is funny. He makes me laugh. It isn't like I am hearing things, It is my own thoughts, but higher thoughts, if that makes sense.

Just wondering if anyone else knew him too?

Melissa

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new tribe

2005-07-19T05:37:35Z

My life has been quite literally crazy for the past few months. And so are multitudes of others in my larger circle.

And at this point in my life, I have to owwn up to that FAR too many people have been experiencing FAR too many similiar experinces for it to just be chance. So many friends and even friends i barely know, or haven't met yet, are experiencing incredibly similar hard times. Sometimes an almost perfect mirror image of things in my own life. Relationships are wonky, long time couples are splitting or really having to work to stay together, money issues are cascading forth, unhealthy ways of being are getting pinpointed, usually painfully and usually all at once.
If your life is occuring as mine was, as a darkly comedic tragic farce, then you're probably in the shift!

This is actually apparently a good thing, as it's possible all these issues are getting brought up, cleared out and cleaned up so that new faster, more powerful energy can come in. It may mean you are someone the Universe thinks could play a bigger part in helping this planet heal.

So if this sounds familiar, come on over and share your experience (s). And know that the focus of this tribe is to share info, and support each other, in whatever way that looks like for you. I have a little info, and a lot of theories. Only a few of which are totally crackpot!

Rise and shine ya'll,

Rifion Angel.

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Being Called "Lucifer"

2005-07-05T23:11:26Z

I find that occasionally third parties who apparently don't know me have singled me out in odd ways, and are prone to calling me "Lucifer".... I find it odd, but usually just disregard it as though it were a rather unlikely thing (since I don't recall having been God's second-in-command).

How seriously should I take such assertions or implied statements by otherwise intelligent, informed, and open-minded people?

Just wondering.....

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trully sorry and seeking help and guidance

2005-06-20T19:26:47Z

well to say the least I am honestly sorry to all that I might have come across as a very dark creature Im am trying to revert that and all I ask for is help with me getting over the regret Im living. I had everything any1 could ever had asked for. I had the most beautiful fiancee, a creation of our love our Son, and a house 2 cars the whole big american dream. But I screwed up and sometimes I get my ego back and wonder how in this or any world could I be so stupid. All I ever wanted was happyness and I had it, I was just so scared of turning out like my father that I made my situation like his. Of course I see my son as often as I can and try to be the best role model for him as a friend, a daddy, a father and as a rob. But I am having the hardest time even breathing with the pain suffocating me it has been 2 yrs with out them and I hate it. though I have been trying my hardest to stop hanging out with negative people and start embracing light. I also have been trying my damndest at the stop smoking thing to live a healthy long life to see him grow. But sometimes at the height of joyness I still bring her pain and myself as well.

Any words of wisdom would be more than grateful at this point in time thank you.

p.s. Our imagination feeds our intention for Creation souly from Love.

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Urantia book

2005-06-13T17:51:28Z

Has anyone read this tome? It is incredibly interesting from many aspects. Suposedly written by angles down here on earth, They speak english better than anyone I have ever read. The first part is way heavy and I still need to re read is about orders in heaven ie: Heaven is like a great university with many specialties and phi beta kapps such as Jesus. More into the book it explains evolution ,how the earth was formed , how life was brought here, the ice age etc. It goes on the also show the evolution of mans cons iousness via religion and points out the relevance of every religion. It also talks about the 4 races,
And it states that each of us has a personal "adjuster" sworn to guide and protect us. Some of these adjusters have aided well known people in history.
It is truly interesting and credible and good for another tribe but maybe we could all get into it here.

By the way I am new here. I love talking about religion and philosophy. My parents were non-religious jews and brought me up Ethical Culture where we studied all religions. Their motto was "wherever men gather to seek god is holy ground. Does that include the internet? Intent is everything.
Ive also had my problems with possession because I did not choose to listen and follow the correct voice inside me. Though I made a serious wrong turn in a seeminly harmless way by taking a college course with a man who turned out to be evil. I therefore find myself choked up with anger and grief over what has happened to me. And yet I hope to be able to share what I know to help whomever myself as well.
Love to all

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Spirits

2005-03-09T17:00:06Z

OK well I know Life does go on. but I have some very percular pics Mind you all of them have not been fucked with just resized. I am not surprised that light cant be seen nakedly what surprises me is that more r coming their was one and now their is three I can account for these 3 being my mother and grandmother and my begotten father but I sense more r coming can any1 plz give me some advice on dealing with these?

http://noclue.zimoblog.com/

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HELL-o

2005-02-12T06:48:29Z

well just looking for new folks believers and what nots. Well the name is Lucifer, the Alpha of sorrow has begun, the anti-christ(nephilem has been summoned and born) GODS will shall be done and when this life beat of mine fails to excist ,I shall return with the light of heaven in the form of 2 meteours capable of annialating 2\3 rds the entire population of living habitants of Earth. tip stay out of Texas. Yes We finally talked again and God said Lucifer You the king of sadness shall bring forth my will. I gave to them everything I had and yet they still destroy and faulter. yes I am 46 and 2 hairless anything to associate me with no1 I have done I am not a tv watching, commercial buying, disease infested, straight 46, digtal watching dice players to fat and americanized to actually roll dice, they have to watch them roll themselves, robotic vacuums and mops, moronic idiotic monkey skin suit .

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Any experiences on either side lately?

2005-02-12T02:19:06Z

If you've had a run-in with demonic or angelic forces or guidance recently, please post them here as witness.

I'll have to say that guardian angels have been working overtime on the traffic situation. They've always been amazing about protecting the vehicle that I'm in. Cars and trucks veer into my lane and I calmly manuever to move, or they rebound and seem to bounce back in another direction. I don't know how many times I've been told (sensed) to wait at a green light, to watch a truck or car go barreling through the red. There have been so many of these instances that I sometimes wonder if there aren't demons who are doing their best to take me out - but just can't overcome the power of angels.

That's the faith I rest in - and it's a GOOD rest. : )

Anyone else?

Bing

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Astral Travel, Meditation, Alchemy, Gnosis, Etc.

2005-01-12T23:35:49Z

Free courses: http://mysticweb.org

Peace,
Denny

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BACK TO THE BASICS

2005-01-05T02:53:35Z

http://sanfrancisco.tribe.net/tribe/81b361a8-7976-4964-9dc1-9ce3cd691b3c?_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5B81b361a8-7976-4964-9dc1-9ce3cd691b3c%5D&r=10535

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Book of Raziel/Enoch

2004-12-13T03:21:40Z

I recently read that the Book of the Angel Raziel (Sefer Raziel) later became what we now know as the book of Enoch. It was passed from Raziel to Adam and then thrown into the sea by jealous angels. It was later retrieved by Rahab, another angel/demon of the primordial deep, and given back to Adam. It was passed on to Enoch, who passed it on to Noah, who used it to build the Ark (and who also recieved a "medical book" from Rapheal), and so on to Solomon, who used its secrets to gain his great power and knowledge of magic. In one version of the story, however, Enoch supposedly passed it off as his own, perhaps changing a few things, and that is the origin of the Book of Enoch. It is said that Sefer Raziel was written in an indecipherable language and that, accoding to The Zohar I, 55a, the middle contains a secret writing "explaining the 1,500 keys to the mysteries of the world" which were not revealed even to to holy angels. Raziel is also known as Ratziel, Akrasiel, Gallizur, Saraqael, Suriel, and other names. He is "the angel of the secret regions and cheif of the Supreme Mysteries," is the personification of divine wisdom (Cochma), is 2nd of the 10 sefiroth, is one of the 9 arcangels of the Briatic world, is cheif of the order of Erelim, and is the herald of deity and preceptor angel of Adam....anyone know anything else about Raziel or this amazing book?

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enochian

2004-12-13T03:18:27Z

Anyone familiar with supposedly angelic language and system as revealed by John Dee? If so, thoughts?

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The Book of Fallen Angels/Pillars of Tubal Cain

2004-12-13T03:17:20Z

Has anyone read "The Book of Fallen Angels" or "The Pillars of Tubal Cain" by Michael Howard?

If so - taking it out of the Luciferian context - what are your opinions? Personal belief systems aside, I've found that they provide some great reference points in terms of certain unconscious/symbolic or rather solid connections/overlaps between the mythos, history, and collective memory of various ancient civilizations - or at least provide a framework for some rather large intuitive leaps.

Any thoughts?

-Ashton

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The Watchers & The Nephilim

2004-08-19T09:43:20Z

I think I may have something of interest about these.
What do you want to know?

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War

2004-07-18T23:06:16Z

Man, there's a war going on in my body, so fierce that some days it just sucks me dry. I've been pondering about the duality of principalities, and the possibilities that "everything you know is wrong" and that angels and devils not only are the same thing, but can switch teams.

Basic question - can an angel hate?

Can a demon love?

And if the duality of a "principality" is possible, then it reflects the duality of the human part of our existence.

It's all so much blather - all I know is what I feel, and the pull has been great of late. I mean, everyday is like fireworks. Glorious to behold, but you don't want one to explode in your face.

Bing
www.darkstudios.com

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i heard...

2004-07-04T22:08:07Z

...through a nasty grapevine that Michael and Gabriel are the only angels ever mentioned by name in the bible.

what gives?

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What Of The Neutral Angels?

2004-06-28T20:54:10Z

There are a couple sites I've found that have information on them.

1) www.malakim.com

2) http://taospirit55.tripod.com/text/anunnaki.html

Share your thoughts... :)

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New Prose Poem: Son of the Morning

2004-06-14T10:54:40Z

Son of the Morning by Fuckerpants von Fucktard copyright 2004

Before,
and while,
I fall from Grace
lead me from
this lonely place...

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New Prose Poem: Lycanthropia

2004-06-14T07:31:06Z

Lycanthropia by Veronique Cyphyre copyright 2004

Wake up to a howl
Well, really a series of howls
Surely intending to be one long sound
But dissected by limitations of breathing apparatus

Slowly finding bearings
And shaking off sleep
I am electrified to find
The source of sonic desolation
Is within my room

Has some fiend siezed my soul?
But I am soon lulled by
The animus of sine waves

To espy the primordial hearth
Where protohumans
Huddle around dancing tongues of light
Seeking desperate fellowship
From the dark incisors of the night

Peering through two glittering prisms
At those amorphous silhouettes
Quavering before the flames
As the omnipresent howl
Rages on

Lupine shadow
Leaps through smoky twilight
Eyes affixed on the old weak one
Wrinkled throbbing throat
Thinly veiled rivulet of red

...Blood!

Red

...Food!

Red

...Flood!

Red...

...Dawn

Whew!

A disturbing dream...

Good to be awake again...

Get up...

Look in the mirror...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...

Oh

My

God!

HOWWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLL !!!!!

by Veronique Cyphyre copyright 2004

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The Fall

2004-06-07T22:03:00Z

This topic is one of realistic interpretation these days, though originally not meant to be, for it is essentially metaphorical, symbolizing those aspects of ourselves that can either attain to the rightness of God or the opposite. Then again, in a macro-micro-meso concept of mythology as outlined by Campbell, (respectively universe-individual-society) perhaps it did occur, much in the vein that the life of Jesus was a metaphor lived out by him for our understanding of these levels of reality and experience. Back on topic, however--Several interpretations of The Fall are out there and I will discuss some of them in future posts.

Firstly, one must understand that Satan, the Devil, the uber-being of lies and so on, is a later construction from that entity that appears in the Bible as Lucifer or Belial, as outlined by Elaine Pagels in "The Origin of Satan," wherein she explains the socio-political landscape that brought about the altering of the character of ah-satan or of the Shaitan position in the celestial hierarchy into what we now know as the being Satan, often confused with the angels Samael, Satanil, Beelzebub, Belial, and so on. All these angels are seperate entities, of different classes, such as Archangels, angels, principalities, thrones, and so on. Various charts exist of the hierarchy and I will post some in the images section when I get the chance. The thing to remember is that Satan is a social construction. In the story of The Fall, there is no specific Satan, only angels of various classes that banded together in one specific instance, though some of them are held to certain relationships to greater entitys based on their place within the hierarchy.

Some maintain that Lucifer, or Samael, granted knowledge (ie, "light") to humans, that is, he explained to us the function of free will. In this way he made us responsible for our actions. God, or perhaps the Elohim, another class, thought we weren't ready yet for that kind of information, and judging by the history of our planet, they were probably right. Lucifer also brought fire, symbolic of knowledge and light, which we have used in various forms for good and not-good. Satanists hold this revelation as a good thing and the Gnostics also, thus their heresy according to the orthodoxy and silencing at the Nicea conference in Italy, in which the texts to be included in the Bible were determined.

The Nephilim is a slightly different topic, that is, in this story, a group of 300 angels engaged in a pact to "fuck shit up" on earth as a bit of revenge and display of their own free will, something they bickered with the Elohim over in the first place. They landed at Mt. Hermon, on the Israeli/Syrian border, if I remember right, and engaged in sexual relations with human women, thus creating a hybrid race with mixed genetics. One must recall that the angels who did this were of different categories, thus creating differnt types of hybrids, which then interbred among themselves to create even more various groups and types. Giants (Greek Titans, sons of Zeus, etc.,) were among these groups are they were able to mate with normal humans, thus infecting the original gene pool. If one considers that physical construction is a symbol of spiritual construction, then those hybrids would carry some etherial memory of the angelic state. Interestingly, many of the megolithic structures around the world, those that dipict astronomical alignments as researched by Graham Hancock and others, such as Persian ziggurats like the Tower of Babel, the faces of Easter Island, the pyramids at Giza, the city of Tenotichlan (pardon my spelling!), and so on, are, according to local customs in all of these areas, the work of Giants, often working alongside human mystics.

It seems to me then, from the physical evidence, that something did occur at some time in remote antiquity, but our myths about that occurance have been filtered through 10,000 years of socio-political circumstance. I will discuss this more later! Any and all thoughts and criticisms are welcome!

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introduction

2004-06-05T12:53:02Z

Hi all, much intereting stuff in these threads which I will have to address later, when I have more time. In brief, I'm the son of a former protestant Christian minister and an occultist as well, with a good library and a broad perspective which I hope will add something positive to the tribe. I have my handy copy of Davidson's "A Dictionary of Angels" right here, along with my other sources, and am looking forward to adding my 2 cents regarding the myths, realities, and interpretations of angels and demons. I will also add some images and excerpts from texts that I hope you all find useful!

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Long time, No see....

2004-05-13T20:12:26Z

Missed you all here and I'm sorry I haven't kept up on Tribe. Been going through alot of stress lately but I'm holding on to my faith.
Love you all lots,
Sherri
>^..^<

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temporal placement?

2004-04-05T20:24:58Z

where are you? I'm in oakland?

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New photos

2004-04-05T16:55:25Z

There are lots of really great imagery in the gallery and I just wanted to thank whomever is responsible, perhaps even in the plural.

I've been real-jobbing it and the holidays have kept me busy, but there's a lot of good stuff going on here - thanks for hanging in and weighing in with your views on the duality of these beings that we're taken with. Happy Holidays, bring it on. : )

Pa gjensyn,

Bing

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Angel moments/devil moments

2004-01-25T22:01:35Z

So, whether angels and demons are split sides to our own nature (human/spiritual) or actual entities that help to steer us right or wrong (or whatever), surely we can identify with the characteristics that might make for angelish or devilish behavior.

Any angel or devil moments that you care to share? I'm holding back, cause I got a million of 'em. This could get weepy and ugly. : )

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New here

2004-01-25T21:51:32Z

I've been reading this board some. I find this topic uber interesting. I constantly feel surrounded by demons and evil as if something terrible will happen to me soon. I have never experienced a possession, and probably would die of a heart-attack if I did. I've been raised Baptist my entire life, and have strayed somewhat due to trust issues in my church family, and questions regarding Biblical things. I am trying to find a common ground in my beliefs. These evil feelings only confuse me more. I've never actually seen an angel or demon to my knowledge, but I have felt them strongly.

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What is the sound?

2004-01-21T21:17:27Z

I've been living in this house for all of my almost 18 years, and every since I was a child, I'd feel what I would call ghosts(?). I'd hear them sometimes, and things would happen around the house to show me another being was there. What do you think on the subject of these "ghosts"? Are they, or are they the angels and demons also?

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Pics

2004-01-21T13:48:52Z

Hey Tim - thanks for posting the latest pics in our gallery - they're beautiful!

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Guy Finley's P.O.V.

2004-01-20T13:16:42Z

While doing a little research on the concept of angels and devils, I came across this interesting piece by Guy Finley ( http://www.guyfinley.com ), whom I don't know from Adam, but I agree with some of what he's come up with here:

"Angels and devils do exist. Most people don’t believe in these forces of Light and darkness because they can’t see them hard at work - which is like saying that the four seasons don’t exist just because you’ve never actually seen the hand of Mother Nature pluck an autumn leaf from a branch, or gently open a field of springtime flowers.
Angels and devils are always close by. So it’s vital for you to understand that Angels and devils are always hard at work around you. And this fact is no cause for fear, for while their subtle bodies are invisible, their activities are not. The forces of Good and evil can easily be seen working their ways in and through human beings; for it is within us that these levels of Light and darkness mold life on earth in their image.
Angelic forces are for you in every meaning of the word. They are for your physical health, emotional happiness, mental development, and entrance into their own Eternal, light-filled realm.
Devils want you to think that those forces which they wield are also for you. But these dark forces are always against you because devils, by their very nature, are against everything - including themselves!
Your protection from devils and their dark, deceptive ways is within your ability to recognize them as devils. This specialized power of perception comes to you first in the form of an intuitive recognition: a blend of insight and past experience. Now let’s see how to call upon and consciously cultivate this important new power.
Learn to look for signs of the devil at work by staying alert and awake to where it is that devils most commonly like to delight themselves. Then, when suspecting the presence of these dark forces at work - regardless of where, or in whom, you catch such a glimpse - just learn to look upon that condition in the same manner as do the Angels on High. This means you work to meet these moments without fear, righteousness, or condemnation. Your Angelic action works just like a celestial beacon, attracting Higher Angelic forces to your side. And since Angels have complete authority over devils, not only is your complete safety assured, but so is the growth of your spiritual strength. Why? Because each time you stand up to the devil in this way, it becomes increasingly clear to you that the only power darkness has is in the absence of the Light.
Following are 15 Ways Would-Be Angels Can Recognize the Works of the Devil:

1. Angels enjoy the company of Angels, but are just as content flying alone. Devils are compelled to have other devils around them because their chief pleasure is pouncing on one another.
2. Angels hate nothing, not even devils. Devils despise Angels most of all, because the existence of Angels proves the devil’s own nothingness to himself.
3. Angels know the purpose of life is to exalt the One who created their lives. Devils spend all of their time trying to figure out how to get other devils to praise them so they can believe they’re self-made.
4. Angels have no fear of any dark place. Devils tremble in the Light and the dark.
5. Angels are rewarded by their acts of self-sacrifice. Devils are punished by their intention to be selfish.
6. Angels would rather die than fight over nothing. Devils have no life outside of fighting - which they do over everything and for any reason.
7. Angels never gossip. Devils like to light themselves on fire and then pull other devils into their flames so that they can dance in the searing heat with them.
8. Angels attract Angels. Devils attract devils.
9. Angels never struggle with the moment of life. Devils think that life itself is one momentous struggle.
10. Angels know that there is no real contentment to be found outside of that light which is their nature. Devils find fulfillment in their endlessly haunting wants — which is their nature.
11. Angels endure. Devils lash out.
12. Angels let devils go their own way, for they know a devil’s heart is already punishment enough. Devils are always trying to get in the way of Angels in the hopes of being able to cause them some pain.
13. Angels never try to impress other Angels with their light because they know, however bright it may be, it isn’t their own. Devils delight in fanning their own flames so that they can see how many other devils they can attract with their false light.
14. Angels want you to know everything possible about them. Devils must deny their own existence.
15. Angels know that "hopeless" is nothing but a meaningless word coined by the devil. Devils won’t acknowledge the uselessness of any despairing state because it helps to fill their empty lives."

There are elements of this list that ring very true with me. There are a few people that I know - I'm evaluating their influence on me - that I perceive to be under the influence of devils. When I bring it up directly, there is a definitive hush that fills the room and then a denial of being affiliated with "that guy" (i.e. Satan). My too-wide-open-mind (is there such a thing?) is open to the fact that there may not be angels or devils, but I'm largely on the side of my head that agrees - they're around us all the time.

Anything else in this list speak to you? Or do you find it to be hooey?

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Demons are circling

2004-01-18T20:03:46Z

They are very present - they are tugging at me. This weekend is important for some reason. I must be very careful in my behaviors this weekend - my choices. The air is heavy and the gloom is thick. I need to channel up, power up and ask my guardian angels to loan me some common sense and wisdom, tap into my deeper pools of knowledge and reason. I have no fear - only awareness that THEY ARE THERE.

Begone and follow not!

You are the star of each night,
You are the brightness of every morning,
You are the story of each guest,
You are the report of every land.
No evil shall befall you, on hill nor bank,
In field or valley, on mountain or in glen.
Neither above, nor below, neither in sea,
Nor on shore, in skies above,
Nor in the depths.
You are the kernel of my heart,
You are the face of my sun,
You are the harp of my music,
You are the crown of my company.

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Fear is a demon

2004-01-12T23:34:28Z

Fear is a demon.

Fear is a demon.

There is no good in fear - though some would tell you that fear will save your life. I say "the flight response" will save your life, the adrenaline pumping you out of harm's way. That's not fear - that's determination, that's the will to live, the survival instinct.

Fear rots your gut and makes you ill, gnaws away at your insides and ruins your mind. Fear destroys and tells you that you'll fail, that you'll get hurt, torments you and suggests other, less dangerous ways to go.

Fear stops you. Fear reroutes you while you're on your path. Fear shouldn't even be feared. Fear fuels terrorism. If there was no fear, there would be no terror.

Fear is a demon.

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Prayers Needed

2004-01-11T17:47:03Z

Hi guys,
Well, I've been kind of hesitant about this cause I was afraid of a negative reaction but at this point I'm going to ask if you can pray for me. I've been sick since last wednesday with really bad stomach problems(Too embarrasing to mention what kind)accompanied by a fever and dizziness. I called my doctors office and told the receptionist what was going on(This was three days ago)and she basically laughed and told me she'd have a nurse call me back. Well, The nurse called me back laughing and said "What can I do for you" . I told her the problem and she suggested a few things then told me to talk to a pharmacist(sp?). She was quite obnoxious and acted as if she were trying to get me off of the phone as fast as she could. Well, The stomach problem is SLOWLY going away . Still have the high fever however and the weakness which has made it very hard for me to function like I normally do. I am looking for a new doctor as of now(maybe one who will listen this time). Thanks for letting me get this out. With tears in my eyes.
God Bless.
Sherri

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New Angels

2004-01-06T20:36:47Z

I posted some more angels from pages 7-8 the Michael & Gabriel icon first to Saint Jerome and the angel.:)

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Lilith

2004-01-06T15:02:21Z

anybody ever heard of Adam's first wife?

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Has anyone ever read this book?

2004-01-06T01:23:06Z

A book called : A Divine Revelation Of Hell by Mary K Baxter? Back in my Messianic Jewish days I read it twice. If any of you have read this book, What is your opinion on it? Just wondering....

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The Exorcism of Nicola Aubrey

2003-12-03T18:24:29Z

The Exorcism of Nicola Aubrey
by Father Michael Müller, C.S.S.R.

It is indeed a remarkable fact that, as the devil made use of Luther, an apostate-monk, to abolish the Mass and deny the real presence, in like manner God made use of his arch-enemy, the devil, to prove the real presence. He repeatedly forced him publicly to profess his firm belief in it, to confound the heretics for their disbelief, and acknowledge himself vanquished by Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. For this purpose God allowed a certain Mme. Nicola Aubrey, an innocent person, to become possessed by Beelzebub and twenty-nine other evil spirits. The possession took place on the eighth of November, 1565, and lasted until the eighth of February, 1566.

Her parents took her to Father de Motta, a pious priest of Vervins, in order that he might expel the demon by exorcisms of the Church. Father de Motta tried several times to expel the evil spirit by applying the sacred relics of the holy cross, but he could not succeed; Satan would not depart. At last, inspired by the Holy Ghost, he resolved to expel the devil by means of the sacrament of Our Lord's body and blood. Whilst Nicola was lying in a state of unnatural lethargy, Father de Motta placed the Blessed Sacrament upon her lips, and instantly the infernal spell was broken; Nicola was restored to consciousness, and received holy communion with every mark of devotion. As soon as Nicola had received the sacred body of Our Lord, her face became bright and beautiful as the face of an angel, and all who saw her were filled with joy and wonder, and they blessed God from their inmost hearts.

With the permission of God, Satan returned and again took possession of Nicola.

As the strange circumstances of Nicola's possession became known everywhere, several Calvinist preachers came with their followers, to "expose this popish cheat," as they said. On their entrance, the devil saluted them mockingly, called them by name, and told them that they had come in obedience to him. One of the preachers took his Protestant prayer-book, and began to read it with a very solemn face. The devil laughed at him, and, putting on a most comical look, he said: "Ho! Ho! My good friend; do you intend to expel me with your prayers and hymns? Do you think that they will cause me any pain? Don't you know that they are mine? I helped to compose them!"

"I will expel thee in the name of God," said the preacher, solemnly.

"You!" said the devil, mockingly. "You will not expel me either in the name of God, or in the name of the devil. Did you ever hear of one devil driving out another?"

"I am not a devil," said the preacher, angrily, "I am a servant of Christ."

"A servant of Christ, indeed!" said Satan, with a sneer. "What! I tell you you are worse than I am. I believe, and you do not want to believe. Do you suppose that you can expel me from the body of this miserable wretch? Ha! Go first and expel all the devils that are in your own heart!"

The preacher took his leave, somewhat discomfited. On going away, he said, turning up the whites of his eyes, "O Lord, I pray thee, assist this poor creature!"

"And I pray Lucifer," cried the evil spirit, "that he may never leave you, but may always keep you firmly in his power, as he does now. Go about your business, now. You are all mine, and I am your master."

On the arrival of the priest, several of the Protestants went away - they had seen and heard more than they wanted. Others, however, remained; and great was their terror when they saw how the devil writhed and howled in agony, as soon as the Blessed Sacrament was brought near him. At last the evil spirit departed, leaving Nicola in a state of unnatural trance. While she was in this state, several of the preachers tried to open her eyes, but they found it impossible to do so. The priest then placed the Blessed Sacrament on Nicola's lips, and instantly she was restored to consciousness.

Rev. Father de Motta then turned to the astonished preachers, and said: "Go now, ye preachers of the new Gospel; go and relate everywhere what you have seen and heard. Do not deny any longer that Our Lord Jesus Christ is really and truly present in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar. Go now, and let not human respect hinder you from confessing the truth."

During the exorcisms of the following days, the devil was forced to confess that he was not to be expelled at Vervins, and that he had with him twenty-nine devils, among whom were three powerful demons: Cerberus, Astaroth, and Legio.

On the third of January, 1556, the bishop arrived at Vervins, and began the exorcism in the church, in the presence of an immense multitude.

"I command thee, in the name and by power of the real presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, to depart instantly," said the bishop to Satan in a solemn voice.

Satan was, at last, expelled the second time by means of the Blessed Sacrament. On leaving, he paralyzed the left arm and right foot of Nicola, and also made her left arm longer than her right; and no power on earth could cure this strange infirmity, until some weeks after, when the devil was at last completely and irrevocably expelled.

Nicola was now taken to the celebrated pilgrimage of Our Lady at Liesse, especially since the devil seemed to fear that place so much.

Next day Father de Motta began the exorcism in the church of Our Lady at Liesse, in presence of an immense multitude.

He took the Blessed Sacrament in his hand, and, showing it to the demon, he said: "I command thee, in the name of the living God, the great Emmanuel Whom thou seest here present, and in Whom thou believest."

"Ah, yes!" shrieked the demon, "I believe in Him." And the devil howled again as he made this confession, for it was wrung from him by the power of Almighty God.

"I command thee, then, in His Name," said the priest, "to quit this body instantly."

At these words, and especially at the sight of the Blessed Sacrament, the devil suffered the most frightful torture. At one moment the body of Nicola was rolled up like a ball; then again she became fearfully swollen. At one time her face was unnaturally lengthened, then excessively widened, and sometimes it was as red as scarlet. Her eyes, at times, protruded horribly, and then again sunk deeply into her skull. Her tongue hung down to her chin; it was sometimes black, sometimes red, and sometimes spotted like a toad.

The priest still continued to urge and torture Satan. "Accursed spirit!" he cried, "I command thee, in the Name and by the real presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ here in the Blessed Sacrament, to depart instantly from the body of this poor creature."

"Ah, yes!" cried Satan, howling wildly, "twenty-six of my companions shall leave this instant, for they are forced to do so."

The people in the church now began to pray with great fervor. Suddenly Nicola's limbs began to crack, as if every bone in her body were breaking, a pestilential vapor came forth from her mouth, and twenty-six devils departed from her, never more to return.

Nicola then fell into an unnatural swoon, from which she was aroused only by the Blessed Sacrament. On recovering her senses, and receiving holy communion, Nicola's face shone like the face of an angel.

The priest still continued to urge the demon, and used every means to expel him.

"I will not leave, unless commanded by the bishop of Laon," answered the demon, angrily.

Nicola was now taken to Pierrepont, where one of the demons, named Legio, was expelled by means of the Blessed Sacrament.

Next morning Nicola was brought to the church. Scarcely had she quitted the house, when the devil again took possession of her.

The bishop who was requested to exorcise Nicola, prepared himself for this terrible task by prayer and fasting, and other works of penance.

On arrival of Nicola in the Church, the exorcism began. "How many are you in this body?" asked the bishop.

"There are three of us," answered the evil spirit.

"What are your names?"

"Beelzebub, Cerberus, and Astaroth."

"What has become of the others?" asked the bishop.

"They have been expelled," answered Satan.

"Who expelled them?"

"Ha!" cried the devil, gnashing his teeth, "it was He whom you hold in your hand, there on the paten." The devil meant our dear Lord in the Blessed Sacrament.

The bishop then held the Blessed Sacrament near the face of Nicola. The demon writhed and howled in agony. "Ah, yes! I will go, I will go!" he shrieked, " but I shall return."

Suddenly Nicola became stiff and motionless as marble. The bishop then touched her lips with the Blessed Sacrament, and in an instant she was fully restored to consciousness. She received holy communion, and her countenance now shone with a wondrous, supernatural beauty.

Next day Nicola was brought again to the Church, and the exorcism began as usual.

The bishop took the Blessed Sacrament in his hand, held it near the face of Nicola, and said:

"I command thee in the name of the living God, and by the real presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ here in the sacrament of the altar, to depart instantly from the body of this creature of God, and never more to return."

"No! No!" shrieked the devil, "I will not go. My hour is not yet come."

"I command thee to depart, Go forth, impure, accursed spirit! Go forth!" and the bishop held the Blessed Sacrament close to Nicola's face.

"Stop!, stop!" shrieked Satan; "let me go! I will depart - but I shall return." And instantly Nicola fell into the most frightful convulsions. A black smoke was seen issuing from her mouth, and she fell again into a swoon.

During her stay in Leon, Nicola was carefully examined by Catholic and Protestant physicians. Her left arm, which had been paralyzed by the devil, was found entirely without feeling. The doctors cut into the arm with a sharp knife, they burnt it with fire, they drove pins and needles under the nails of the fingers, but Nicola felt no pain; her arm was utterly insensible. Once, while Nicola was lying in a state of unnatural lethargy, the doctors gave her some bread soaked in wine, (it was what the Protestants call their communion, or Lord's Supper,) they rubbed her limbs briskly, they threw water in her face, they pierced her tongue till the blood flowed; they tried every possible means to arouse her, but in vain! Nicola remained cold and motionless as marble. At last the priest touched the lips of Nicola with the Blessed Sacrament, and instantly she was restored to consciousness, and began to praise God.

The miracle was so clear, so palpable, that one of the doctors, who was a bigoted Calvinist, immediately renounced his errors, and became a Catholic.

Several times, also, the Protestants touched Nicola's face with a host which was not consecrated, and which, consequently, was only bread, but Satan was not in the least tormented by this. He only ridiculed their efforts.

On the twenty-seventh of January, the bishop, after having walked in solemn procession with the clergy and the faithful, began the exorcism in church, in presence of a vast multitude of Protestants and Catholics.

The bishop now held the Blessed Sacrament close to the face of Nicola. Suddenly a wild, unearthly yell rings through the air - a black, heavy smoke issues from the mouth of Nicola. The demon Astaroth is expelled forever.

During the exorcism which took place on the first of February, the bishop said:

"O accursed spirit! Since neither prayer, nor the holy gospels, neither the exorcisms of the Church, nor the holy relics, can compel thee to depart, I will now show thee thy Lord and Master, and by His power I command thee."

During the exorcism, which took place after Mass, the bishop held the Blessed Sacrament in his hand, and said: "O accursed spirit, arch-enemy of the ever-blessed God! I command thee, by the precious blood of Jesus Christ here present, to depart from this poor woman! Depart accursed, into the everlasting flames of hell!"

At these words, and especially at the sight of the Blessed Sacrament, the demon was so fearfully tormented, and the appearance of Nicola was so hideous and revolting, that the people turned away their eyes in horror. At last a heavy sigh was heard, and a cloud of black smoke issued from the mouth of Nicola. Cerberus was expelled.

Again Nicola fell into a death-like swoon, and again she was brought to consciousness only by means of the Blessed Sacrament.

During the exorcism which took place on the seventh day of February, the bishop said to Satan:

"Tell me, why hast thou taken possession of this honest and virtuous Catholic woman!"

"I have done so by permission of God. I have taken possession of her on account of the sins of the people. I have done it to show my Calvinists that there are devils who can take possession of man whenever God permits it. I know they do not want to believe this; but I will show them that I am the devil. I have taken possession of this creature in order to convert them, or to harden them in their sins; and, by the sacred blood, I will perform my task."

This answer filled all who heard it with horror. "Yes," answered the bishop, solemnly, "God desires to unite all men in the only holy faith. As there is but one God, so there can be but one true religion. A religion like that which the Protestants have invented, is but a hollow mockery. It must fall. The religion established by Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only true one; it alone shall last forever. It is destined to unite all men within its sacred embrace, so that there shall be but one sheep-fold and one shepherd. This divine Shepherd is Our Lord Jesus Christ, the invisible head of the holy Roman Catholic Church, whose visible head is our holy Father the Pope, successor of St. Peter."

The devil was silent - he was put to shame before the entire multitude. He was expelled once more by means of the Blessed Sacrament.

In the afternoon of the same day the devil began to cry: "Ah! Ha! You think that you can expel me in this way. You have not the proper attendance of a bishop. Where are the dean and the archdean? Where are the royal judges? Where is the chief magistrate, who was frightened out of his wits that night, in the prison? Where is the procurator of the king? Where are his attorneys and counsellors? Where is the clerk of the court?" (The devil mentioned each of these by name.) "I will not depart until all are assembled. Were I to depart now, what proof could you give to the king of all that has happened? Do you think that people will believe you so easily? No! No! There are many who would make objections. The testimony of these common country-people here will have but little weight. It is a torment to me that I must tell you what you have to do. I am forced to do it. Ha! Cursed be the hour in which I first took possession of this vile wretch."

"I find little pleasure in thy prating," answered the bishop; there are witnesses enough here. Those whom you have mentioned are not necessary. Depart! then; give glory to God. Depart - go to the flames of hell!"

"Yes, I shall depart, but not to-day. I know full well that I must depart. My sentence is passed; I am compelled to leave."

"I care not for thy jabbering," said the bishop, "I shall expel thee by the power of God: by the precious blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ."

"Yes, I must yield to you," shrieked the demon wildly. "It tortures me that I must give you this honor."

The bishop now took the Blessed Sacrament in his hand, and held it close to the face of the possessed woman.

At last, Satan was compelled to flee once more.

The next morning, after the procession was ended, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass was offered up as usual.

During the consecration, the possessed woman was twice raised over six feet into the air, and then fell back heavily upon the platform. As the bishop, just before the Pater Noster, took the sacred host once more in his hand, and raised it with the chalice, the possessed woman was again whisked into the air, carrying with her the keepers, fifteen in number, at least six feet above the platform; and, after a while, she fell heavily back on the ground.

At this sight, all present were filled with amazement and terror. A German Protestant named Voske fell on his knees; he burst into tears; he was converted.

"Ah!" cried he, "I now believe firmly that the devil really possesses this poor creature. I believe that it is really the body and blood of Jesus Christ which expels him. I believe firmly. I will no longer remain a Protestant."

After Mass, the exorcism began as usual.

"Now, at last," said the bishop, "thou must depart. Away with thee, evil spirit!"

"Yes," said Satan, "it is true that I must depart, but not yet. I will not go before the hour is come in which I first took possession of this wretched creature."

At last the bishop took the sacred host in his hand, and said: "In the name of the adorable Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost - in the name of the sacred body of Jesus Christ here present - I command thee, wicked spirit, to depart."

"Yes, yes, it is true!" shrieked the demon wildly; "it is true. It is the body of God. I must confess it, for I am forced to do so. Ha! It tortures me that I must confess this; but I must. I speak the truth only when I am forced to do it. The truth is not from me. It comes from my Lord and Master. I have entered this body by the permission of God."

The bishop now held the Blessed Sacrament close to the face of the possessed woman. The demon writhed in fearful agony. He tried in every way to escape from the presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. At length a black smoke was seen issuing from the mouth of Nicola. She fell into a swoon, and was restored again to consciousness only by means of the Blessed Sacrament.

The eighth of February, the day appointed by God on which Satan was to leave Nicola forever, arrived at last. After the solemn procession, the bishop began the last exorcism.

"I shall not ask thee any longer," said the bishop to Satan, "when thou intendest to leave; I will expel thee instantly by the power of the living God, and by the precious body and blood of Jesus Christ, His beloved Son, here present in the Sacrament of the Altar."

"Ha, yes!" shrieked the demon; "I confess that the Son of God is here really and truly present. He is my Lord and Master. It tortures me to confess it, but I am forced to do so." Then he repeated several times, with a wild, unearthly howl: "Yes, it is true. I must confess it. I am forced to leave, by the power of God's body here present. I must - I must depart. It torments me that I must go so soon, and that I must confess this truth. But this truth is not from me; it comes from my Lord and Master, who has sent me hither, and who commands and compels me to confess the truth publicly."

The bishop then took the Blessed Sacrament in his hand, and, holding it on high, he said, with a solemn voice: "O thou wicked, unclean spirit, Beelzebub! Thou arch-enemy of the eternal God! Behold, here present, the precious body and blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, thy Lord and Master! I adjure thee, in the name and by the power of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, true God and true man, who is here present; I command thee to depart instantly and forever from this creature of God. Depart to the deepest depth of hell, there to be tormented forever. Go forth, unclean spirit, go forth - behold here thy Lord and Master!"

At these solemn words, and at the sight of our sacramental Lord, the poor possessed woman writhed fearfully. Her limbs cracked as if every bone in her body were breaking. The fifteen strong men who held her, could scarcely keep her back. They staggered from side to side, they were covered with perspiration. Satan tried to escape from the presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. The mouth of Nicola was wide open, her tongue hung down below her chin, her face was shockingly swollen and distorted. Her color changed from yellow to green, and became even grey and blue, so that she no longer looked like a human being; it was rather the face of a hideous, incarnate demon. All present trembled with terror, especially when they heard the wild cry of the demon, which sounded like the loud roar of a wild bull.

They fell on their knees, and with tears in their eyes, began to cry out: "Jesus, have mercy!"

The bishop continued to urge Satan. At last the evil spirit departed, and Nicola fell back senseless into the arms of her keepers. She still, however, remained shockingly distorted. In this state she was shown to the judges, and to all the people present; she was rolled up like a ball. This bishop now fell on his knees, in order to give her the Blessed Sacrament as usual. But see! Suddenly the demon returns, wild with rage, endeavors to seize the hand of the bishop, and even tries to grasp the Blessed Sacrament itself. The bishop starts back; Nicola is carried into the air and the bishop rises from his knees, trembling with terror and pale as death.

The good bishop takes courage again; he pursues the demon, holding the Blessed Sacrament in his hand, till at length the demon, overcome by the power of Our Lord's sacred body, goes forth amidst smoke, and lightening, and thunder.

Thus was the demon at length expelled forever, on Friday afternoon, at three o'clock, the same day and hour on which Our Lord triumphed over hell by His ever-blessed death.

Nicola was now completely cured; she could move her left arm with the greatest ease. She fell on her knees, and thanked God, as well as the good bishop, for all he had done for her.

The people wept for joy, and sang hymns of praise and thanksgiving in honor of our dear Lord in the Blessed Sacrament.

On all sides were heard the exclamations: "Oh, what a great miracle! Oh, thank God that I witnessed it! Who is there now that can doubt of the real presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Sacrament of the Altar!"

Many a Protestant also said: "I believe now in the presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament; I have seen with my eyes! I will remain a Calvinist no longer. Accursed be those who have hitherto kept me in error! Oh, now I can understand what a good thing is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass!"

A solemn Te Deum was intoned; the organ pealed forth, and the bells rung a merry chime.

The whole city was filled with joy.

This great triumph of Jesus Christ in the Blessed Sacrament over Satan occurred in the presence of more than 150,000 people, in the presence of all the ecclesiastical and civil authorities of the city, of Protestants and Catholics alike. I have published a lengthy account of this extraordinary affair in a little volume entitled, "Triumph of the Blessed Sacrament." These facts are well-authenticated by the accounts published in various languages - French, Italian, Spanish and German, as I have shown on pages 13, 14 and 15 of above-named little volume.

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New Photo - Angel/Devil

2003-12-03T18:15:11Z

I found this photo on Nerve.com over two years ago, and it has been my desktop image ever since.

When I was 4, I amoke shortly after sunrise, looked over by the dresser, and saw what appeared to be an angel and devil arguing. They were small, maybe 12 inches tall, and hovering just above the height of the bed, between the bed and dresser.

I remember shutting my eyes quickly, because I was frightened. I was already a logical little mind, and dumbfounded at what might have been a metaphysical experience.

I'm sure I was awake, but who knows how time warps the memory of a newly woken child =)

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The Possession of Jackie

2003-11-21T19:56:56Z

Back in my hyper-Christian days, my mother worked as a volunteer at Kaiser-Permanente hospital in Los Angeles and told me of an interesting case that came in one day. Her name was Jackie and she was a high-school senior who had just graduated with honors. Someone had slipped liquid acid or PCP into her drink and it had transformed her into a seizure-ridden near-mute. I was also volunteering in the hospital doing music a music ministry - not really preaching, but just providing company and tunes to those who were laid-up. One day, I walked in to see Jackie. She behaved strangely, turning her head quickly and looking at me at times, then slowly letting her eyes flutter back in her head and staring at the ceiling. I played music for her but the nurses shook their heads and said that she wouldn't respond - she hadn't spoken since her admittal.

A group from my mother's church came to visit her one day and prayed over her. They detected a demon and decided that it needed to be exorcised. On my daily rounds, I happened to catch this - and was alarmed to see Jackie flailing about as the pastor prayed. I had seen her in mid-seizure before, but this was different, like something had a hold of her.

She was even more quiet and subdued in the following days, and I continued to go in and sing songs to her. Towards the end of the week - she sat upright in bed, looked at me and began singing along to one of the Disney songs that I was playing. Of course, I ran screaming to a nurse to bring her in and show what Jackie was doing. She still seemed out of it - but by God, she was making words instead of moans and child-babble. For awhile, I'd go in every day and sing to her and she showed more signs of response.

I didn't see Jackie for a short period, due to school or something. But my mother was there just about every day and kept me informed of her recovery. She was soon discharged. One day, not too long after, while making my rounds, I heard someone say "you've got a visitor" and I turned around to see Jackie, smiling and stepping towards me with only a slight trace of stiffness. "Hello Michael," she said, calling me by my birthname. She gave me a hug and as we embraced, she told me "thank you."

I know it wasn't me that cast the demon out - but it was amazing to see her go from near-mute, racked with spasms, to a walking, talking singing lovely young woman. A few doctors clicked their tongues and suggested that the medicine had done the trick, but I'll tell you something - I know better. : )

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Depictions of angels and devils

2003-11-18T22:11:06Z

If you've got any interesting art of angels, devils or both - please upload them to the gallery! This includes prints or graphics you've run across or your own original artwork - we'd love to see it!

Cheers,

Bing

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Rosemary's Baby

2003-11-18T21:54:36Z

I saw this for the first time a couple of years ago - and it remains one of the most disturbing films I've ever seen. If not for just the one scene where Mia Farrow lunges up and says "this isn't a dream, this is for REAL!" Yikes.

To me - if people were selling their souls to a devil in-the-flesh, it would certainly come in the form of innocuous old people or handsome nice guys. Evil wouldn't come at you with a knife or with a big chorus of chanting voices signalling your sinister intentions. Evil appears as a flower, as a family member - as your best friend.

Anyone else see this film? Any comments?

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Satan Is Real

2003-11-14T06:22:37Z

LOL! Who posted that in the gallery? What I want to know is, is that ALBUM for real? Oh lordy - I think I spotted.

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Your inner demons

2003-11-14T06:21:13Z

If you're one to believe that there is indeed "a devil inside" - is it something you embrace as part of your existence or a force that you regularly attempt to erase from your daily routine? There are those who say that life is a mastery of balance - if this is true, then embracing, rather than suffocating, would be the proper course of action. Right? How do you feel about the concept of inner demons and what have your experiences been?

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Angels in Aerostars (non-fiction)

2003-11-12T21:15:46Z

"You have twenty days to live!" said the laughing driver, sliding behind the wheel of a white and blue Ford Aerostar. The seemingly short and bald man in the passenger seat held a box in his lap, which he peered into with an expression of mixed uncertainty and admiration. The driver, dark-skinned and thin with a moustache, flicked his large soulful eyes in my direction as he pulled away from the gas pumps behind my own Ford Aerostar and made a left turn towards the street.

I hadn't seen that particular Aerostar, the blue and white one. I spotted the black and grey-ish one by pump number three as the Race-Trac station slid up to meet me. Pump number seven was unoccupied as I pulled up to the forward-most machine, as I always do. Some people are so inconsiderate as to pull to the rear set of hoses, forcing you to angle in if it's a gas rush, or to drive in head-on, which usually and ironically pisses off the person who forced you to make such a move. I always pull forward. It's just good karma.

After I had gone inside to pay, I went to open the driver's side door and that's when I spotted the Aerostar behind me. That's when the angel spoke.

"You have twenty days to live!" He didn't seem sad at all. In fact, he was laughing softly. I thought about that fact for a second. It did seem a wee bit sinister at first, but then I thought about my beliefs and how they filter the life/afterlife experience and I realized that the laugh could've been a rejoicing sound. I'm so happy for you. You're coming home!"

I took the news calmly and thought about it while drinking a twelve-pack of Icehouse and sitting at the piano, twirling notes around in tightly packed circles. The Aerostars had been a miracle, this much was certain in my densely packed head. From the force that led me to Anita to this prophetic pronouncement and every weird little glitch and phantasmic ripple in between, this had been one eye-opening trip.

The Aerostars began making themselves known to me about a week after I purchased Anita from a strip-mall used auto joint on 17-92. I had been riding my bike on an errand-running mission one particularly hot spring day when the decision to alter the route to home base came over me. Without thinking much about it, I headed down Mills Avenue and was about to make a turn when I saw her. $2995 samolians and I could solve that band transportation problem; here was our band vehicle! 1991 Ford Aerostar Eddie Bauer Edition. 6 cylinder, front and rear air conditioning, on-board trip computer and removable, reclinable seats. 127,000 miles, looked like it had been babied. Perhaps it belonged to a church.

"I just marked it down from $3995 this morning," said the salesman, handing me the keys as I put my bike in his office.

"Want my license or something?" I offered, thinking a bike was no fair trade for a minivan. Identity is always worth something; giving someone the direct route to where you live involves a certain exchange of trust. But he just waved at me and looked out the window, lighting a cigarette. "I just cleaned her out. Go ahead," he said amiably. "Take her down the street."

I put her on my Visa card.

Just about everyone I knew was surprised when they heard I'd picked up a van off of the street. "Don't worry, she's clean!" I joked. Sure, the mileage was high, but someone had taken care of the vehicle. Besides, it more than suited our needs for transporting the band back and forth to out-of-town gigs. The Eddie Bauer Edition came in requisite green and gold with burgandy trim and it gave the familiar slope-nosed blockiness of the Aerostar a hint of suburban sophistication. When asked where the name "Anita" came from, I told the same story over and over again. I saw her sitting there, knowing that I needed a band transport and thought, "I need-a Aerostar!" The joke usually took a while to sink in. I thought about it all the time, every time I saw another Aerostar. And another, and another. And I thought about the angel and how he laughed so softly as he said "you have twenty days to live."

At first, I'd only see one or two a week. Anita would be nosing through the streets of Orlando, heading to a music store or restaurant or to and from home, and I'd see another Aerostar, usually turning right in front of me.

"Hey look, another Aerostar," I'd think to her.

After a month or so, it seemed that not a day went by without a couple of sightings. They were easily detected from far away thanks to a distinctive and, some say, undistinguished profile that is easily recognizable from just about any angle. Boxy, with square, black-rimmed headlights, far-forward front axle with two lengths; ultra-boxy and cigar-boxy. In all manner of colors, too. What made the Aerostar sightings all the more interesting was how many combinations of color combinations Ford apparently made. It was just about this time that an annoying and persistent tone began to ring out from Anita's dashboard along with a flashing oil symbol. Checked the oil; it seemed fine. So Jae, that's my fiancee', and I take it to Sun State Ford on West Colonial and have them do an analysis on the engine. Their diagnosis: engine's not maintaining oil pressure. Solution: Need a re-built engine. Cost For Brilliant Solution: $4500.

Ouch. And I was preparing to take it up the ass with a table leg when Jae stepped in and suggested we get a second opinion. A family friend turned us on to a shop on East Colonial owned by a whiskey-voiced good ol' boy named Ron who chain-smoked Winston no-filters and walked with a slight limp. His diagnosis: "it might be the fuckin' gauge". Solution: "Replaced the oil pump and the gauge switch." Cost For Brilliant Solution: $40. Do the math. We went to Outback that night.

At some point in time, I began to notice Aerostars so much that I commented to Jae, "wonder how many of these Ford made?" Ubuiquitous little bastards. We made up a game. Whenever you spotted a Ford Aerostar, you had to call it out. "Aerostar!" Sort of like "Punch Buggy", only with more punches administered. But we left out the punching and settled for calling out "Aerostar!" before the other could spot one. After awhile, the frequency of the calls became tiresome and we stopped.

Normally, I would see them doing something that mirrored the path that Anita and I took. If we were turning left, there would be an Aerostar at that intersection turning left also, but appearing to turn right from our point of view. Or traveling in the other direction. It wasn't long before they started creeping into the rear view mirror and suddenly turning from side streets to rotate next to us, falling into line. Three or four sightings a day. Then ten. And then I noticed something peculiar about the timing of the sightings.

I've been a professional driver for over twenty years, from parking lot trams to box trucks to airport shuttles to court courier. When you drive for a living, you see a greater percentage of stupidity on the road than you do if you're just commuting to and from work. Those of us who are on the road eight, nine or ten hours or more a day get to spend a full working shift on the road with clowns of all colorful sorts. The Darters, who lane-change through traffic like a dragonfly, the Parking Lot Elitists who come tear-assing out of parking lots like there's no oncoming traffic to consider, or even the Oh Shit, Our Exit Is Here types who love to travel in the fast lane and then decide that overshooting their exit by one is not as cool as cutting across four lanes of traffic at a 90 degree angle in an attempt to hit the exit-ramp.

They're all out there. So I've learned to not just drive defensively but also to anticipate stupidity on the roads of Orlando. I never have to wait long.

Dodging, swerving, braking (always leaving room to slam on the brakes), accelerating out of the way, my eyes are always moving from mirror to mirror, from ignition to the removal of the keys, I'm an extension of the machine, these big huge machines that the frail human bodies pilot, not something to be taken for granted, from get to go to stop, I'm on red alert, relaxed and enjoying the ride somehow. And a trend developed. Whenever I had some kind of situation where it would have turned out differently, like if I hadn't been alert, I would've hit this vehicle zipping out of a driveway or if I hadn't been going the speed limit, such and such would have happened, well - an Aerostar would show up somewhere. Near-misses, good judgement calls, the yellow-light that wasn't run and the red light that was, whatever - it happens several times a day when you're out there. But with me, whenever it happened, an Aerostar would float by the picture and I'd try to get a look at who was driving.

Maybe they were angels.

One day, Anita's air-conditioning went out. Right about the same time that the irritating beeping noise came back. We shuttled her down to the E. Colonial place and Ron shook his head and mumbled a few things before writing down the info on an order sheet and saying something about "Monday." It would be $900 to replace the vacuum pump on the a/c and he suspected that there might be a clog in the oil lines somewhere. "So we took it down in my old lady's deep fryer and cooked the shit out of it," he said jovially with a broad grin. The air worked nicely. The beep was gone. A silver Aerostar cruised by as we left, $1200 poorer.

Money problems and other issues caused some friction at the home front and I found myself out at night, prowling the scene and touring the bars where others self-medicate their problems away, or at least dull the cutting edge of Life's Knife. More than one time, I poured myself into Anita's pilot seat and ferried us home despite having plied my veins with ounces upon ounces of booze. More than one time, I found myself amazed that I had made it that far. The next morning, I'd be beside myself and dismayed that being let off the hook wasn't enough of a sign.

"Have you been drinking?" the officer asked. "I smell alcohol."

I tried not to slur my words. "I was just at a club, but I wasn't drinking." I felt it. I wasn't getting out of this one. I was right. But curiously enough, I was arrested for driving while my license was suspended; nothing else.

When I went to retrieve my car from the towing service that absconded with it that night, I was angry to find that there was no key included. "It didn't come with a key," said the dispatcher, looking vaguely annoyed that I would question his firm's fidelity. We towed my little blue Metro home and I thought about the angry things that I had to say to that cop. He had those keys, he should've given them to the tow truck guy. What the hell was he thinking?

And then I started thinking about what the hell he was thinking.

Cops are meticulous people - they don't regularly lose keys. And they don't regularly gloss over obvious D.U.I.'s either. The guy had given me a break. And a little reminder of it in case I was too thick.

So many people die from alcohol-related wrecks, and that's no accident. I sometimes wrongly justified my abilities behind the wheel by my track record of driving professionally, though a handful of minor metal twisting had been wrought due to severe imbibing and on at least one occasion, ripping my face open in the process. You'd think a person would learn, but sometimes when we drink, we don't think. I didn't think many times. I don't know if there were Aerostars riding as my wing-guards on those dark, desperate nights on the short trip from downtown to home, but I can still see them out there. Riding point in a diamond formation, clearing traffic as I head for the trail.

Anita refused to go backwards one day. Ron gave me a wry look as the wrecker set her down. Transmission: $1200. Then, the beep came back. "What is up with that noise?" asked my lead singer, looking around in the back of the van. I explained the road map of repairs thus far and how the beeping seems to have eluded the mechanic. She laughed and replied, "your car is haunted!" I knew that my house was haunted, but did I have a mobile spirit that was now manifesting its presence in my ride? It seemed possible. Problems maintaining a charge: alternator fried out. Some $400 all told. The Angels in Aerostars Rescue and Protection Mission stepped up operations and sent out pairs of Aerostars to send beacons of safety and love to Anita and I as we miraculously avoided scrape after scrape after scrape. We were like matador to the world's bulls, all pointing headlights in our direction, but never catching anything but the swish of our draft, deftly dodging the dangerous Detroit devils as they attempt to remove us with a precision strike! The beep comes and goes, depending on its mood, I suppose. One morning, Anita throws up fluid that resembles thousand island dressing. All over the driveway. A quick starting of the engine and it was evident that the power steering had busted. New pump and rack and pinion mount: $900. Now at this point, it's starting to sink in. She needs four tires, seeing her up on chocks so often has revealed this fact very plainly. Suffice it to say, after all got said and done, a week later she blew a head-gasket and the beep decided to become more of a regular thing. At least twenty Aerostars a day now. The colors are amazing.

Bushings for the front right wheel. Right rear shock needs replacing. Overheating problem that causes the gas to ignite before it hits the solenoid, or some shit. And because Ron's little shop is busy with rebuilding a stock car, it takes five days turnaround to get Anita back on the streets. It's really starting to sink in now: this van's a big, fat lemon. Its owners had ditched it for good reason, fixed it up just enough to roll it onto a lot and pray that it wouldn't start freaking out before someone could buy it. It was the Amityville Aerostar and I had inherited the money pit on wheels. But I had felt so divinely inspired to purchase her. She seemed the answer to all of my problems, but now, she ranked number one with a bullet as my all-time biggest headache. Poor Anita, I thought. She's really a cute, personable, pleasant ride. But I may have to cut her loose.

"You have twenty days to live!"

I came out of my reverie of recollection and sucked down the last of the 12-pack. So what if the angel was happy for me? What if it's not my time to go? It had been a winter of re-awakening and the spring had found me turning inward to hold a mirror up to the light. All it takes is a little bit of acting to present what you wish to someone else. But you can't lie to yourself. Oh, you may find a way to dress it up in your mind, mutter it under your breath, but ultimately you know what you know and why you know it. How you feel it. If everyone's real and uncensored first thoughts, real and primal thoughts, were ever to be transmitted, well the walls would have to come down then, wouldn't they? Over the past few months, I had "gotten real" and ascended to the next level of awareness. Jae understood this big crazy game we played, which is one of the things that attracted me to her in the first place. She was the key person to initiate the work that continues as this writing unfolds. Both of us wanted to find the inner core and feed from that source, living off of the love-light that we're all connected to. The goal to reach a state of pure, unfiltered love, at all times, a worthy conquest. So that the first thought off the front of our minds, our fleshy, human minds, would be connected to the spirit's first thought, which is "love".

Love isn't always fun, pretty, uplifting, romantic and good for your soul, you come to discover. Jae and I had been through the wringer in our first year of a rollercoaster relationship, but our spiritual connection kept us bound by determination and pure, raw, agonizing love. I told her about the angel at the Race Trac and that I had twenty days to live. We quickly made up a will and plans for running the business after my death. But something told me that no-one should know that May 17th would be my last day on Earth. This time around. And I wouldn't suddenly call up all of the people I've known and loved to pour out last words and to heal old wounds. Not everyone gets that kind of luxury, to pay last rites to the living, and besides - with all the people I've loved and left, it would take more than 20 days to get a minute in with all of them.

It sat in the back of my brain every day. Every day as Jae and I re-launched our love on the wings of second chance. Every day since we both started the Atkins Diet and began taking better care of our bodies, including abstaining from alcohol. Every day that we exercised and communicated and cohabitated and comingled, it sat out there, but I didn't think too much about how or when or why and just about then it became clear to me that at the moment of the angel's admonition to me, I was at the threshold of this radical new direction in my life. What if my death in 20 days was only if I didn't make that change? Like a car dodged in traffic because I'm kicked back and tuned in to the Angel Station, I might've dodged a bullet (or an oncoming car). What got me thinking about that? The fact that I took seriously what I had heard. There were no questions about "what did he actually say?" Did I mishear this man in a vehicle that seemed to haunt me where ever I went?

They're everywhere. It seems every other car is an Aerostar. They're parked next to me, cruising to the side of me and in front of me on the highway. They're always in the next space over when I come back from store, hanging around outside the houses I visit, lurking on every level of the parking garages that I park in. I no longer look at the drivers to see if they look like angels, because I know that both angels and devils come in all shapes and sizes and you'd be unwise to make a judgement based on appearance only. Just like an Aerostar, some are immaculate and sleek while others are most assuredly Ghettostars. Anita had been stable for a few weeks, so I hesitantly took a courier job and began hauling bits and pieces from Tampa to Gainesville in a few days. The beep would surface every now and again, but Anita was a champ, putting in days of 150 miles and more sequentially. This was the road test for taking the band out-of-state. I wanted to be sure that nothing else would go wrong with her, not that she hadn't been mostly rebuilt at this point. It didn't take long for the air-conditioning to go out again, and soon thereafter - a strange sort of grinding from under the hood.

"Ron's not here, but we can help you," the guy from the shop said on the phone. I asked him about the little loose part on the a/c compressor that was dangling loose and not spinning. He said it wouldn't be a problem as long as it wasn't affecting the belt. It was on a long delivery to Ponce Inlet that the bearing froze up and started smoking the belts as I attempted to head back to town. A peace and a calm rode over me as we managed to solve the problem with no hairs raised. A nice gig downtown. A nice night. A nice day. The feeling is there. Look at how more vibrant life is. It's actually enjoyable. All of it. And I'm an eleventh hour kind of guy, gotta come with a deadline or it doesn't get done.

My real life and fantasies are fodder for the fire, and farther from the friction forms a factual fallacy. This is my life and everything I know is wrong. "You have twenty days to live" could have easily been an admonishment or a threat. The big arrow that comes up during driving games to let you know that you're veering off course so badly that you need a big, blinking, fucking arrow in your face tellin' ya "THAT way THAT way!" sometimes. Or the guy could've been talking about his laundry list or whatever the hell his buddy had in the box that confused him so. Sometimes I see too much, the details of every little thing. Enough to have that need to mentally tap into a wellspring of "duh" and veg out in order to escape the signals. Once I find peace in the stream, it'll all become clear. Jae and I are fishing in the stream of light. Trying damn hard to simply think, be and show love. To all, excluding none. Tuning into that frequency that we all share, turning on the radio, turning on the conscious, turning on the sub-conscious, turning on the super-conscious, the Akashic Record hot-wired to the population of this and every other world.

I used to think people who talked like this were loony. Now, I'm smiling from the other side of the glass. And....loving it. Angels and devils, all around.

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Welcome!

2003-11-11T14:49:24Z

Though there are many tribes here that deal with religion and the different aspects of belief in a higher power - I didn't find anything that dealt specifically with angels and devils. They are fascinating beings, whether you personally believe in them or not, they are prevalent throughout our western society as well as many others. From mythology to music history, from the Bible to the bookstands, there are songs, movies, books, entire religions based around the existence of angels and devils.

Here, I don't neccessarily wish to ask the question "are they real?" because it's obvious that, subjectively, they are real enough to have made a splash in the collective consciousness of an entire human race, whether you believe in them or not! How do they influence human behavior and what do we know about them? It's this last question that I hope we'll focus on in this tribe.

So, whether it's the fact that you KNOW for certain a guardian angel saved you from certain death - or that you wouldn't have tried that crack unless it wasn't the devil's doing - or that book you read last night about demons kept you up till sunrise, or the "City Of Angels" movie made you cry - it all stands as evidence that, real or imagined - these beings have a profound effect by simply "being."

Share your thoughts, and thanks for joining!

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Angels and Devils

2003-11-11T05:06:15Z

Angels & Devils
© 2003 Fajita Musik

I wear my angel face
I wear my devil face
I wear them everyplace
and no one is the wiser

I smile an angel's smile
I grin a demon's grin
here comes the switch again
and no one is the wiser

true colors trickle, mix and splatter on this canvas
what lies inside, I cannot hide from you
you couldn't miss this

I love an angel's love
I hate the devil's hate
they both sit on my plate
and no one is the wiser

sometimes it's angel's food
sometimes it's devil's food
I guess it depends on my mood
and no one is the wiser

one shoulder carries all that's right and pure and loving
the other carries quite the opposite
there's pushing and shoving

angels and devils

I can hope and I can pray
I can't leave but I can't stay
there's no wrong and there's no right
and no one is the wiser

suspicions tell me truly
"neither side is winning"
the only ending is revealed at the beginning

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